Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Florida State University – Spain Branch


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   redirect to Florida State University. Consensus seems clear enough here that a relist wouldn't be required. At this time, the information in the article is indeed unsourced, but if it can be sourced in future, a merge of some of the information may be appropriate, obviously ensuring it's attributed appropriately. (non-admin closure) Steven   Zhang  Join the DR army! 03:32, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Florida State University – Spain Branch

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I tried searches for this in various formats, but could not find substantial, independent, multiple RS coverage. The article itself has zero refs, and has been tagged for this fault for over 2 years. Epeefleche (talk) 06:39, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:13, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Spain-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 14:13, 23 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Merge back to Florida State University. Sounds like an advertisment is its current form. 198.252.15.202 (talk) 19:15, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi. Were you intending to suggest redirect?  The challenged text is all non-referenced, and therefore I believe not appropriate for merger.--Epeefleche (talk) 19:45, 23 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment - Here are the facts, this article is currently mislabeled. There is no FSU, "Spain Branch" but there is however a Spain Study Center which is what this wikipedia article is talking about. So yes it does exist, its hard to gauge notability however. --KightofFivePillars (talk) 20:41, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. The supplied diff refers to it as "Valencia Study Center".  This was the lone passing reference to that name that I found in gnews.  This was the only thing I could find that had as much as a snippet in gbooks.--Epeefleche (talk) 20:48, 24 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep or Merge to main FSU article. Sources clearly exist and the programme is listed on the FSU web site and in news coverage. -- 202.124.74.158 (talk) 07:05, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
 * For a keep, we would need substantial multiple coverage in RSs. Non-independent coverage such as mention by the school itself would indicate that it exists, but would not indicate wp notability. Similarly, a mention by the US Embassy that "The Solomonts also visited the Florida State University (FSU)’s Valencia study center, where they engaged with American students studying abroad" is a bare, passing, non-substantial mention that fails to discuss the subject of the article in substantially, and therefore also does not confer notability on it.  As to a merge, I challenge all the text (if that is not already clear; which I think it is), and it remains without inline citations, and therefore the challenged text should not be re-created in a future merge, as that would be at odds with WP:CHALLENGED, which states: "any material challenged ... must be attributed to a reliable published source using an inline citation."--Epeefleche (talk) 07:14, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
 * In my view, you are completely misunderstanding WP:V, or suggesting a radical change in Wikipedia policy. The fact that you "challenge" something is no obstacle to a merge. It seems to me that this material (possibly in an abbreviated form) should exist somewhere, either in this article or in the FSU article. Since it is clear that reliable sources exist, at least to the level required for a brief section in the FSU article, your "challenge" appears to be tendentious. -- 202.124.74.214 (talk) 11:05, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
 * That's odd -- wp:v is a core policy, and a challenge here is completely appropriate. If you wish to add inline citations, as required by the policy, you or anyone else is free to do so.  If you wish to do that at this article, you can take upon yourself the movement of the article history if the article is in fact merged.  Or you can create the information, with the article history, at the target, and avoid that.  BTW -- have we met before, with you perhaps editing under a different IP address, and/or user name?--Epeefleche (talk) 19:03, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
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