Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Flotilla effect


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The result was delete‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. Liz Read! Talk! 22:50, 27 June 2023 (UTC)

Flotilla effect

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The term "Flotilla Effect" is coined in the paper (Price & Levinger, 2011) cited on the page. However it is not used anywhere else. It is entirely a concept coined by politicians and released on behalf of the Green-EFA group in the EU parliament. It has no wider currency. The page has a heading "scholarly references", but while these 3 papers do all cite (Price & Levinger, 2011) for their purposes, none of them actually refer to, nor use the term "Flotilla Effect". Page content indicates this is very much a local political issue. (Price & Levinger, 2011) only has 5 citations according to Google Scholar. Welsh newspapers are used to bolster the credibility, but all simply refer to the political "think tank" paper. There is simply no notable subject here. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 18:38, 13 June 2023 (UTC) Relisting comment: Relisting to see if there is support for a selective Merge with Adam Price or another target article. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 22:34, 20 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politics, Europe,  and Wales. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 18:38, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment - I agree that the number of sources is not expansive, but the article does reference 14 sources (+1 that seems self published), including multiple news articles from different establishments. There are multiple scholarly productions that do mention the term "Flotilla effect" e.g the original by Adam Price, one by Cardiff University (and a third by a Plaid researcher .) I agree with your banner that the vast majority are focused on Wales with the exception of one mention in Scotland.
 * There could be a reasonable argument to move content from this page to Economy of Wales and/or Welsh devolution and/or Welsh independence which would be more sensible than a delete. In future, it may be more appropriate to propose a Merge in situations such as these. Titus Gold (talk) 22:13, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Both of the sources cited do not refer to the term "Flotilla effect", they refer to the document itself, "The Flotilla effect". (There's also no need to link to academia.edu, the third document is available on the actual site!) A few other sources I looked at do this as well. If there is no use for the term, or even much non-independent reference to the paper, the best merge target would surely be Adam Price. CMD (talk) 08:36, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete in my source search, it appears to be a term coined in an academic paper which saw no re-use apart from its authors and a small handful of cites. Non-notable term. SportingFlyer  T · C  08:35, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete, although a minor mention could be retained/merged with Adam Price, as the paper is usually credited to Price rather than Plaid Cymru or the Welsh independence movement as a whole. Some sources (some are blogs) are from Price himself or other Plaid politicians or a self-published source, questioning the independence of some sources, while the scholary references are mainly a passing mention, while wider sources were short-lived being mainly from when the paper was first published, with no developments since. So essentially this article is on a minorly cited Plaid Cymru research paper, with little independent coverage outside associating with Price, Plaid or Wales.  Dank Jae  15:07, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment - I am not really convinced there is a need to add this to the Adam Price article, as the term has seen no re-use beyond the initial press releases, and those were not independent. However I don't oppose a minor mention there.
 * Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 20:28, 27 June 2023 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.