Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/FlyHawaii Airlines


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The result was   keep. Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:58, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

FlyHawaii Airlines

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I would think that managing to fly a plane with passengers on it is a reasonable notability requirement for an airline. The "airline" never did. D O N D E groovily  Talk to me  03:18, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep.  There is no rule that companies must be successful to be notable. This subject is a notable flop. Multiple reliable sources, significant as a part of Wikipedia's comprehensive coverage of civil aviation in Hawaii, no valid reason to delete.--Arxiloxos (talk) 04:20, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
 * You bring up a good point here, that a company doesn't have to be successful to be notable. Of course, there are some companies whose failure makes them all the more notable, for example Enron.  &mdash;Comp dude 123 04:30, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
 * But what makes this failure notable? Some investors pulling out? That's never notable, it happens in the business world constantly. The company failed without the fraud, hyped-up claims and scandals that makes other failures notable (eestor and Enron for example) D O N D E groovily   Talk to me  12:05, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Notability isn't temporary, like Hawaiian717 said. You really seem to be pushing your point a little too much.  &mdash;Comp dude 123 15:55, 26 April 2012 (UTC)


 * keep, it's possible for something to be notable without ever becoming a thing, provided sources exist. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 04:28, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
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 * Keep: WP:N multiple reliable independent sources covered the company. Also note WP:NTEMP: Notability is not temporary; once something has been the topic of significant coverage, it does not require ongoing coverage. FlyHawaii can be viewed in the larger context of a series of failed attempts to break the near-duopoloy in Hawaii for inter-island service held by Hawaiian Airlines and Aloha Airlines: Mid Pacific Air, Discovery Airways, Mahalo Air, FlyHawaii, and Mokulele Airlines (with the Embraer 170 jets). FlyHawaii simply failed a little sooner, and it's early failure can be attributed to the imminent arrival of go!, which is a whole other notable topic in its own right because of it's role in the failure of Aloha and legal battles with both Hawaiian and Aloha. -- Hawaiian717 (talk) 15:45, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep: Meets WP:GNG, and notability is not temporary. As a non-rationale sidenote, it makes me laugh. - Jorgath (talk) (contribs) 18:32, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm not saying notability is temporary, I'm saying this was never notable in the first place. Airlines aren't notable until they fly. D O N D E groovily   Talk to me  00:22, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Not true. It's entirely possible for something to meet WP:GNG without ever taking wing, be it an airline or an aircraft. - The Bushranger One ping only 02:03, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
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