Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fly UK Virtual Airways


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete. Rjd0060 (talk) 15:58, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Fly UK Virtual Airways

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It may not look like it, but this is actually a virtual airline, i.e. a club of people who play flight simulation games. Questionable if any notability or references Stifle (talk) 13:06, 18 April 2008 (UTC) Comment Did None of you read this page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Please_do_not_bite_the_newcomers and will you get over the fact we have an IATA Code? reason for it is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Virtual_Aviation_Organization you will be there for hours if you complian to every VA that uses it
 * Delete unless rewritten - I still don't understand what the airline actually is, despite having looked at both the article, and the official website! -- JediLofty User ¦ Talk 13:15, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete I put this up for speedy, and understand why Stifle brought it here. This is a Virtual airline, meaning it is basically an airline made up for use in a game (ducking now to avoid things being thrown at me for saying that), most often using Microsoft Flight Simulator. There are no reliable, non-trivial, independent sources which have written in detail about this entity to give it notability. The article creator even added the category Category:IATA members, which is a category detailing real airlines which are members of IATA (one of the few cartels still allowed to operate). The other type of virtual airline is one which doesn't hold its own Air Operator's Certificate, owns no aircraft, hires no flight crew, but instead offers flights under its brand by utilising aircraft of a real airline, SkyValue is an example of such a virtual airline. --Россавиа Диалог 13:38, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Non-notable, non-existent airline. Claiming to be an IATA member really pushes thing a bit too far. I removed that category from the article. DarkAudit (talk) 14:00, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Stay as i wrote the page its only fair i tell you what the reason of the page is As RWA (Real World Airlines) EG: Thomas Cook, Thomsons, British Airways Have there page a Virtual Airline also should It has nothing to do with advertising just so the pilots of this Airline can find the information, Now im sorry but if your going to delete this page i recommend you delete the other Airlines pages aswell cause i am not going to stop remaking this page till it does so basicallly its they all stay or all go its you choice —Preceding unsigned comment added by NellesJason (talk • contribs) 15:30, 18 April 2008 (UTC)  — User:NellesJason (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Comment That sounds like an Other stuff exists argument, which is frowned upon, as is your threat to keep recreating the article if it gets deleted. You say it's an airline - the article doesn't make that clear.  I have no idea what a virtual airline is, and the article doesn't enlighten me at all! --  JediLofty User ¦ Talk 15:36, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment NellesJason, I suggest that you familiarise yourself with what Wikipedia is not, the relevant section is that Wikipedia is not your personal webspace. Another start-point is WP:FIVE. If you need webspace, I suggest you try recreating your article at one of these sources. To closing admin, I would also suggest protecting the namespace against recreation given the stated intent of the article creator to be disruptive. --Россавиа Диалог 15:38, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Wikipedia is not Google. Your buddies want to find you, tell them to go there. If, as you claim, your intent is to be disruptive, there are plenty of admins waiting for you to do just that so they can drop the blockhammer on you. Is that what you want? DarkAudit (talk) 15:44, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Dark Audit I dont see what the Problem with the page or any of you is TBH its a Customly Created VA with i have spent time Doing a Wikipedia Page for if you were gonna do this when it was nearly finished you should have done it when you started. as it is still AIP ill carry on with it —Preceding unsigned comment added by NellesJason (talk • contribs) 15:48, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment You do not have any real life airplanes. You do not have any real life pilots. You do not operate any real life flights. To claim real life IATA or ICAO designations is disingenuous at best, a fraud at worst. I never said this was advertising in any way. DarkAudit (talk) 15:58, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Nonexistent airline that has never and probably will never exist in real life and completely does not satisfy notability guidelines. This is certainly not the same as a real airline that has real employees, real aircraft, real book systems, real routes, real passengers, etc.  Those airline pages satisfy notability guidelines whereas this does not in any way, shape, or form.  NcSchu ( Talk ) 16:21, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
 * The fact that you are 'new' is irrelevant since the page is still not notable. Do not remove AFD templates and other WP templates without approval. NcSchu ( Talk ) 16:54, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Do not remove them. You have been warned. Claiming actual IATA or ICAO designations on Wikipedia when you in fact do not in fact have them in any real life capacity is unacceptable and will not be permitted. At the very least you must note that they are for simulation purposes only, and have no standing in the real world. DarkAudit (talk) 17:17, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Delete entirely non-notable gaming club. --87.115.9.231 (talk) 17:26, 18 April 2008 (UTC) Delete Fails WP:Notability.Divinediscourse (talk) 20:59, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Game-related-related deletion discussions.   -- Fabrictramp (talk) 19:09, 19 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete Not notable and also a fictional airline. MilborneOne (talk) 21:05, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong delete Non-notable, fictional airline that someone has made up. --Craw-daddy | T | 22:09, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Delete per Craw-daddy above. Conpletely non-notable and not an airline, but a game a group of people are playing. Also note false claims of IATA designation and threats of disruption by the author. Freederick (talk) 14:54, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete as a non-notable organisation. The airline needs to be proven to be notable through third-party, independent reliable sources. A specialist wiki may be a more suitable location for this content. Gazimoff Write Read 10:03, 22 April 2008 (UTC)


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