Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Flying Machine (song)


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The result was   redirect to Mexican R'n'B. Guerillero &#124;  My Talk  05:06, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

Flying Machine (song)

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Couldn't establish that this meets WP:NSONG or WP:GNG. I redirected this song to its album (that way if reliable sources to support notability were put forward, it could be reverted and thus easily re-created. In the meantime, it would be a potentially useful redirect.) My change to redirect was reverted, with the message that my edit was 'vandalism'. This might be worth a redirect to the album, but not to be an article. Boleyn (talk) 16:44, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Redirect – I agree to a redirect but don't know why you brought it here instead of discussing it on the talk page with the other user (who just magically appeared after six years). United States Man (talk) 17:44, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Redirect. It's pointless to have this stub as a free-standing article--even if there were more material, it's doubtful that independent notability could be demonstrated. --Hobbes Goodyear (talk) 23:17, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 23:25, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 23:25, 5 January 2014 (UTC)


 * "Magically" appeared? - nope, I logged on. Nothing remarkable or magic about that. There is VERY little information about The Stairs, and only a few recordings, of which all are notable. This is a page documenting a recording released by the band's label in the US, and therefore notable. The fact that the songs on this recroding (a stand alone cd, the photo of which was deleted even though I had attributed copyright correctly at the time) also appear on an album has nothing to do with the notability of this article. How is "notable" defined anyway? Who gets to say what might or might not be notable? And to whom? Sa cooke (talk) 00:12, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
 * The relevant notability for songs and singles is here.--Hobbes Goodyear (talk) 00:28, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
 *  This recording is NOT a song or single, therefore the guidelines you pointed to do not apply. The recording is a promotional release by the band's US label, and therefore notable in context. Just because it is not notable to you has nothing to do with it's notability generally. Sa cooke (talk) 01:21, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
 * The article title says "song" and the lead sentence says "single", but if you think instead that the recordings guideline should apply, then I would encourage you to provide evidence of this promotional release's notability. The article should also be built up more, else--notable or not--it should be folded into the main album page as a convenience to the reader.--Hobbes Goodyear (talk) 02:14, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
 *  If you check the history, I did not call it a song originally - it was edited by someone to read that. I do concede that an argument could be made for folding the information the page should contain into the album, but I suspect there is a bit more to add about the release. The Stairs only visited the States once, and the release was to promote the small tour. The release is notable because The Stairs released so little material that any release is important. It may not seem that way to you, but others (including myself) find that significant. A google search will show the importance the band has, and the influence the band has had on other bands from the area. Sa cooke (talk) 02:22, 6 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Redirect No independent sources, no article. --Randykitty (talk) 13:11, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete Doesn't even pass general notability requirement. Notablity is not inherited. -- Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 17:50, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
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