Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Foley & Lardner (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Speedy Keep per WP:SNOW. Warden (talk) 09:02, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

Foley & Lardner
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This article was discussed at Articles for deletion/Foley & Lardner. In the six years since, it still has yet to have a verifiable reliable source, even though our standards have risen. It also refers to various living people, which references must be from verifiable reliable sources. I think it is high time we revisit that discussion. —  Jeff G. ツ (talk)   02:22, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep. It's unfortunate that sources haven't yet been added, but this is still the oldest law firm in Wisconsin and one of the largest in the United States.  The firm is the subject of a 1992 book published by the State Historical Society of Wisconsin (reviewed in the UK journal Business History here: ). There is voluminous news coverage.  One particularly useful potential source would be a 1970 front-page feature in the Milwaukee Journal that discusses the firm's history in some detail; unfortunately, as luck would have it, the first page of the paper is missing from the Google News copy.  I do agree that parts of the current version of the article are somewhat promotional, but that can be cleaned up. --Arxiloxos (talk) 13:48, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Wisconsin-related deletion discussions. 14:17, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Law-related deletion discussions. 14:17, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 14:17, 12 April 2013 (UTC) \


 * Keep, weakly. I've edited the article a bit, deleted a paragraph of unreferenced gush about some client satisfaction survey, and tagged the long section of former members as unreferenced.  It could probably be removed as well without loss; a lot of it reads like clutching at straws for an AfD discussion.  (Antonin Scalia allegedly worked there one summer.)  But if this business has had a book written about it by a state historical society because it's been around since the 1840s.... that's the sort of thing that does make a business notable.  The article in its current state makes hardly any case for notability, but the underlying subject appears to be.  Somebody with access to a copy of that book might be able to turn this into an encyclopedia article. - Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 14:32, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep. The organization has noteworthy accomplishments, notable membership, and significant secondary source coverage, and in addition, good deal of history since founding in 1842, great potential for educational and encyclopedic resource for students, readers, and editors alike. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 15:21, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep Foley&Lardner is the oldest law firm in Wisconsin and its founders are notable. I agree with Arxiloxos the sources are there and can be added to the article. Thank you-RFD (talk) 13:14, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.