Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Footballers who have played for rival clubs


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 17:14, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Footballers who have played for rival clubs

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Indiscriminate collection of information. You could pick any two rival football teams and find dozens of players who have represented both. This article doesn't even limit the list by country or by level, so there could be thousands, or even tens of thousands of names on the list when it is completed, and it's doubtful it ever could be completed. At the very least the scope of the article should be restricted and it should renamed to reflect that. Gasheadsteve 18:16, 3 January 2007 (UTC)


 * This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of football (soccer) related deletions. Gasheadsteve 18:24, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. Impossible to complete and/or maintain effectively - what counts as rival clubs, what level do they have to have played at, what countries would come under it? It's too broad a list. Trebor 18:36, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete, could never ever be maintained, and the question on what clubs are rivals could never ever be answered in an NPOV way. – Elisson • T • C • 18:40, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete, per above :: mikm t  18:54, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete completely arbitrary. Guy (Help!) 19:15, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. Two clubs in the same league or division are somewhat rival, right... (not even talking about rival clubs in the same area but in different leagues, which may be rival as well). So, any player having played in two clubs in the same league or area could be included in this list. As Johan Elisson put it, the list cannot be maintained. --Edcolins 19:40, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - such lists should only be in articles detailing particularly notable rivalries - the list of combinations is nearly endless otherwise. Qwghlm 22:23, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
 * neutral - but it does seem clear enough to me. As an Ipswich Town Football Club supporter, this would mean to me any player that has played for both Town and norwich city, our biggest rivals. I think the list of players who have done so numbers five or six, so really it doesn't seem that hard to maintain a list like this once you get a few editors working on it. Jcuk 00:32, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
 * You fail to note that there are thousands of "rivalries" around the world. I doubt "a few editors" can maintain that. – Elisson • T • C • 19:33, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
 * There are a finite number of football clubs in the world. I would imagine every single one of them have fans who are wikipedia editors. Each club is liable to have one other main rival (Ipswich-Norwich, Liverpool-Everton, Wolves-West Brom). The numbers of players who have played for both clubs in a particular pairing is not going to be high considering all the clubs available for a player to join in his career. I really dont think it would be difficult to maintain this list on that basis. Jcuk 02:24, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep- Football is a passionate sport with passionate rivalries. It can easily be maintained.Arjan14 01:37, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Got any practical suggestions for how? Trebor 19:51, 4 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete- which rivalries are to be included? It's possible to argue massive numbers of them, rendering this article almost impossible to maintain, and possibly NPOV (who decides what constitutes a rivalry? It's not always clear cut). Also, I really don't see what purpose a list such as this is likely to serve- it seems to be just a list for the sake of making lists. There are articles on some particular rivalries which are verifiable and notable, I think they would be the appropriate place to list any players who have switched sides. Robotforaday 01:26, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - Who decides what constitutes a rivalry? Surely every club playing in a league are rivals as they all want to win it. On the other hand, Swansea & Cardiff could be defined as rivals despite playing in different divisions. An argument could be made for any two clubs really. Alexj2002 11:43, 8 January 2007 (UTC)


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