Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/For You (Film)


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) JAaron95  Talk  15:34, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

For You (Film)

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The film fails the general notability guideline as well as the more specific criteria listed at Notability (films). Diannaa (talk) 13:09, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not notable. Kierzek (talk) 15:36, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lebanon-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:41, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:41, 7 July 2015 (UTC)


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 * Strong Keep per meeting WP:NF per Arabic language coverage (now added). Sorry to disagree and, but currently used sources DO offer more than trivial non-English coverage to meet WP:GNG. and it was nominated for best film at the International Catholic Film Festival. And, as the Vatican's Pontifical Council for Culture does not seek press for its film festivals, I will look for more in non-English languages.  Schmidt,  Michael Q. 22:00, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Hey, no need to apologize, I'm bound to be wrong some of the time. -- Diannaa (talk) 22:04, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks.  Schmidt,  Michael Q. 23:21, 7 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Comment: I believe an major issue leading to this being nominated by, and a problem I came across in my search for sources, is that this Lebanese film has no English language release, no English release title, and no English-language coverage under its current article title. That being the case, I thus urge that after a "keep" the article be moved to the easily sourcable Anglicized "Men Ajlikom " per WP:NCF. Keeping it at its current (poor) title will confound any who try to find sources under that (poor) name.  Schmidt,  Michael Q. 10:14, 8 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep per MJS.♦ Dr. Blofeld  07:31, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
 * That'd be M Q S ... Q, not J.. but thanks. 22:57, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JAaron95  Talk  13:03, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep per the expansion work.  Lugnuts  Dick Laurent is dead 18:32, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment: Dear, thanks a lot for your contributions. I believe that Fr. Sawaya by chosing this 'English title', is saying to all humans(including English-speaking persons) that Jesus Christ was sent to carry their pain, suffering & woes... I thus hope to "keep" the article with the English title : 'For You'. Georges Aoun 14:30 UT, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Glad to be of help, Georges. We do know that Father Sawaya called his Lebanese film من اجلكم‎ or Men Ajlikom, but we have no evidence that he ever called his Arabic language film by the English title of For You. Worse, under that suggested title it is essentially unsourcable. WP:NCF tells us "Use the title more commonly recognized by English readers; normally this means the title under which it has been released in cinemas or on video in the English-speaking world. Normally, this will be an English language title that is recognized across the English-speaking world; however, sometimes different English-speaking countries use different titles, in which case use the most common title, and give the native and alternate English title(s) afterward." Not ever being released or reviewed as For You, it's most common title is the Anglified Men Ajlikom. I have thus addressed guideline instruction in the first sentence of the lede... giving its sourcable common title, the native Arabic title and that suggested alternate English title.  Schmidt,  Michael Q. 10:20, 19 July 2015 (UTC)


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