Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/For the Love of the Game


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete. Sr13 07:06, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

For the Love of the Game

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WP:CRYSTAL applies here. Future album on which nothing but the "tenative" release date can be stated (and not even confirmed). Nothing concrete here yet, so delete. Ten Pound Hammer • (((Broken clamshells • Otter chirps))) 04:43, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Why should it be deleted if it was confirmed to be recorded and it has for tracks confirmed also. I think it should stay until further information is released (Quetzal123 04:46, 26 July 2007 (UTC))
 * Confirmed where? Ten Pound Hammer  • (((Broken clamshells • Otter chirps))) 04:49, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Go to myspace.com/pillar and go to the blog that says "July 24th New Journal From Rob" (Quetzal123 04:57, 26 July 2007 (UTC))
 * MySpace is not, I repeat, not, a reliable source. Try again. Ten Pound Hammer  • (((Broken clamshells • Otter chirps))) 05:00, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
 * What about the band's official page pillarmusic.com?(Quetzal123 05:02, 26 July 2007 (UTC))
 * Doesn't count either. To pass muster, it needs multiple independent sources. For instance, non-trivial coverage in a newspaper or notable magazine, or on a popular (and reliable) music website like the All Music Guide. I can't find anything reliable that verifies the release date. And if the release date is the only verifiable piece, then why bother? Ten Pound Hammer  • (((Broken clamshells • Otter chirps))) 05:05, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay then. That's all the sources there are for now, but there will be some more later on this year. (Quetzal123 05:08, 26 July 2007 (UTC))
 * You can re-create the article when there are more sources. Ten Pound Hammer  • (((Broken clamshells • Otter chirps))) 05:10, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Alright then I will. Nice talking to you. Later(Quetzal123 05:13, 26 July 2007 (UTC))


 * Delete. Yet-to-be-released items can sometimes be notable, but this needs to be confirmed by multiple, reliable, independent sources.  While using their blog to post the upcoming album, we can be reasonably assured (unless we suspect the band is lying) that the album is actually in production.  Unfortunately, it's not notable yet.  For example:  an album published by a notable band on a notable label can usually be presumed to have proper sources floating around somewhere (WP:V requires only that they exist, not that they be given); an album that is yet to be released cannot be presumed to have such sources, and so they must be provided for both verifiability (people do lie sometimes) and notability.  Someguy1221 05:58, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete, then recreate as a redirect to a (yet-to-be-created) DAB page for For Love of the Game (the book), For Love of the Game (film) and this album (assuming notability can be verified). Caknuck 06:47, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete the release of the album was confirmed on a myspace page? Myspace isn't a reliable source, unless of course its really the bands page.  However, if it is the bands page, there is no reliable, independent sources cited to prove notability.  And the page should be a DAD anyway, like canuck said.   Pats Sox Princess  13:37, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment - Myspace isn't a reliable source even if its the band's page. The band can post whatever they want, truthful or not, with no one reviewing for accuracy. Charlie - talk to me - what I've done  14:50, 26 July 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.