Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ford V Ferrari


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was draftify. Ad Orientem (talk) 04:15, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

Ford V Ferrari

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This seems to fall under WP:TOOSOON. Caorongjin (talk) 21:47, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 00:28, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 00:28, 19 June 2018 (UTC)


 * keep it. its starting filming in July. you will regret deleting it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Surajvedula (talk • contribs) 01:39, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete and drafity. It is too soon as filming has not yet begun, per WP:NFF, but looks like it will be notable if it does enter main production. BOVINEBOY 2008 13:28, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Whats a drafity ? and also what are you gonna do if the movie goes into production in july ? you are gonna waste my work and recreate the page allover again ? . — Preceding unsigned comment added by Surajvedula (talk • contribs) 17:28, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Draftifying an article means moving it from the mainspace (where readers can see it) to the draft space, where it's not visible to ordinary readers, but the existing content of the article is preserved and can still be worked upon. If and when it is determined that it is appropriate for the article to be moved back into mainspace, that can occur. DH85868993 (talk) 07:32, 20 June 2018 (UTC)


 * IMDB has updated the status of the movie to being in pre-production, so I am pretty sure this movie is happening...i don't see the point in blocking this any longer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Surajvedula (talk • contribs) 18:40, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Guys this movie even have a release date...so I don't see the point in deleting this page. Here is the link
 * You guys allowed once upon a time hollywood movie to have a wikipedia page and you have problem with this ? what is this ? that movie is coming 2 months after this movie. This movie is coming on 28th June and that is coming in august. So I dont think this page needs to be deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Surajvedula (talk • contribs) 15:56, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Articles are judged on their own merit. WP:WHATABOUTX Ifnord (talk) 22:30, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Move to Draft:Ford V Ferrari and allow immediate restoration once reliable sources have confirmed that principal photography has started, which Surajvedula said without citing any sources is in July. The guideline Notability (films) says: "Films that have not been confirmed by reliable sources to have commenced principal photography should not have their own articles, as budget issues, scripting issues and casting issues can interfere with a project well ahead of its intended filming date. The assumption should also not be made that because a film is likely to be a high-profile release it will be immune to setbacks—there is no 'sure thing' production. Until the start of principal photography, information on the film might be included in articles about its subject material, if available. Sources must be used to confirm the start of principal photography after shooting has begun." The movie still is in pre-production, which means it clearly has not "commenced principal photography", so it should not have its own article. The article can be moved from the draft namespace back to mainspace once (1) reliable sources have confirmed that principal photography has started and (2) the film has passes Notability by receiving significant coverage in reliable sources. Here is another quote from Notability (films):"Additionally, films that have already begun shooting, but have not yet been publicly released (theatres or video), should generally not have their own articles unless the production itself is notable per the notability guidelines." said above that filming starts in July but has not cited any sources for this. Surajvedula cited the June 22, 2018, article https://www.thewrap.com/christian-bale-matt-damon-60s-ferrari-vs-ford-movie-gets-summer-2019-release-date/ which says: "20th Century Fox has set a summer 2019 release date for its upcoming James Mangold-directed biopic about the 1966 Le Mans race, set to star Matt Damon and Christian Bale. The still-untitled project will hit theaters June 28, 2019. Based on a true story, the film tracks a heated rivalry between Ford and Ferrari culminating in the 1966 24 Hours of Le Mans, the world’s oldest sports car endurance race." The film is a "still-untitled project" so the eventual name might not be Ford V Ferrari. Cunard (talk) 06:29, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom as WP:TOOSOON. Ifnord (talk) 22:28, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ad Orientem (talk) 00:04, 27 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Draftify so the article can easily be readded once principle photography has begun - it's the easiest option for all, rather than a deletion, granting access to primary ed, recreation and resubmission. Nosebagbear (talk) 09:47, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete it appears this movie is happening, but per WP:NFF it's still WP:TOOSOON given the amount of unknowns about this. When more information is known for sure, the article can then be re-created. Draftify could work as well. Tillerh11 (talk) 17:07, 27 June 2018 (UTC)


 * THIS IS A MAJOR FILM. IF IT GETS DELETED IT WILL JUST BE BROUGHT BACK LIKE A MONTH LATER. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jason.reed620 (talk • contribs) 17:10, 1 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Firstly, please don't use capslocks - coming across as shouting just inclines people to ignore your comment.


 * Secondly, arguing that things (films, news etc) will cease to have WP:TOOSOON apply to them if given time is a fairly weak argument in most cases. If you could justify why we should wait, for example, 4 days, then that would be fairly reasonable but that isn't your comment. A month is a fairly long amount of time and more importantly, even major films drop out in pre-production. Nosebagbear (talk) 17:28, 1 July 2018 (UTC)


 * @Nosebagbear Christian bale recently is at miami airport travelling to europe to film the movie. If that is not a confirmation I don't know what is. Look up the link added below. Moreover christian bale is a method actor and feels the need to transform himself for every role he plays in order to give it his all . If you look at stock photos of british racer Ken Miles, he has a thin frame. Look at christian bale images in the below link and he looks thin. Why then would he loose all his weight if this movie is not happening ?


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