Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Forgive Me (Leona Lewis song)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete.  Singu larity  02:47, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Forgive Me (Leona Lewis song)

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Deleted PROD. Fails WP:MUSIC. WP:CRYSTAL, because single hasn't even been released, yet. Jauerbackdude?/dude. 01:31, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:CRYSTAL and WP:RS, as the main source is a blog. Once the album is made, this could possibly be recreated. Happyme22 (talk) 01:37, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete WP:MUSIC, WP:CRYSTAL.   Esradekan Gibb    "Talk" 02:31, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Spirit (Leona Lewis album), as the song does appear on at least two editions of that album if I'm reading the article text right. This is a non-notable song per WP:MUSIC standards. Erechtheus (talk) 02:33, 26 May 2008 (UTC) Delete When deciding what to advocate, I forgot this was an article name that had to be disambiguated with a parenthetical. This isn't a realistic search term, so deletion is the right way to go. Erechtheus (talk) 03:35, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete I agree with Erechtheus about the reading of the article.  But this doesn'te need to be an article, nor does it need to redirect.  No one is going to search for this.  No one will link through this.--15stamps (talk) 03:06, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * No one will link through this'... ahem... 13 inbound article wikilinks -- saberwyn 04:33, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep Notable as song is only found on certain releases of Spirit. Plus, I just love Leona. :-) --Firefly322 (talk) 04:47, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * That means the song is rare, not that it passes Notability (music) guidelines. Cool fact for the article on the album, if sourced. -- saberwyn 04:54, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm far from an expert in wiki-music articles so I probably won't ever master the policy enough to be able break it with confidence and style. All the same, any wiki-policy is just supposed to be a guideline.  Exceptions can and should be made as encouraged by wikipolicy itself:  WP:SNOW and WP:COMMONSENSE (there are probably more appropriate examples). --Firefly322 (talk) 05:03, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge -- per Notability_%28music%29. --Cameron (T|C) 14:34, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Wikipedia is not a crystal ball and this single clearly does not come close to meeting Music. Gwernol 14:49, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment WP:CRYSTAL isn't a valid application of policy with release dates of media. This track has a release date in a week or so, whereas the article of  2009 Star Trek film won't be released for another year. --Firefly322 (talk) 23:36, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Of course WP:MUSIC applies: "In forward-looking articles about unreleased products, such as movies and games, take special care to avoid advertising and unverified claims.... Individual scheduled or expected future events should only be included if the event is notable and almost certain to take place. ". Since this event is not notable, WP:CRYSTAL does apply. Mind you, given that your reason to keep is WP:ILIKEIT, its perhaps not surprising that you ignore the core issue here, which is notability, per Music. Gwernol 23:48, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Please don't confuse a sense of good humor with someone's lack of what policy is and isn't. Humorlessly suggesting such nonsense is just nonsense. Applying WP:CRYSTAL to soon-to-be released music singles and not to much longer range media projects such as a movie weakens the AfD proces and the credibility of the crystal policy. --Firefly322 (talk) 01:38, 27 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete Every single does not deserve it's own page. Movie release dates are often known well in advance, then there's casting and shooting, so there will be plenty of verifiable information of a highly publicized and anticipated movie even years in advance, thus making it notable. There is no need for a separate article for this song until an official announcement of it single release has been made, which according to the article it hasn't. Until that time DELETE per WP:CRYSTAL and WP:MUSIC; the album page that this song is contained on is sufficient.
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  16:12, 28 May 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.