Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fourth Rome


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete. Dakota 13:31, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Fourth Rome

 * del. WP:NOR. Nonnotable speculation about USA becoming superwower, an essay loosely tied with the ideas of New Rome and Third Rome. "Fourth Rome" has no reputable usage in the way as the author describes it. `'mikka (t) 09:40, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
 * The article is a copy & paste of Third Rome with addition: The monk Philoteus claimed that there will be no Fourth Rome. However there is a fourth Rome already. However it does not claim decendancy from the Empire but from the Republic. The United States of America have re-established the foundations of Roman Empire through a republican constitution. Essentially United States of America has all the strtuctures of Anticent Roman republic. Delete original research. -- Ghirla -трёп-  10:32, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
 * keep Article is explaining why the formal even mystical claims for succession of the anticent Roman Empire lost signifficance. Moscow being the last Rome. There was a shift towards substance and adoption of Roman statecraft. According to the political philosophers of the age of reason there was no merit nor legitimacy in mere tradtion. Spespatriae 10:41, 12 October 2006 (UTC) — Note to closing admin: Spespatriae (talk • contribs) is the creator of the article that is the subject of this AfD.
 * Comment Above vote is from the author of the article. Danny Lilithborne 21:45, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom; WP:NOR. PJM 12:24, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete as a non-notable phrase and IMHO a nonsense: USA has (thank God) not the same structures as the ancient Rome.--Ioannes Pragensis 12:57, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment. The author removed template from the article, so it's not tagged for deletion any more. -- Ghirla  -трёп-  14:02, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Weak delete. There probably is a better place for this material.  Ideally, I'd propose a page discussing legends about the Roman Empire at which some of the material concerning New Rome could be merged and expanded, together with Third Rome and the apocalyptic hero the "Last Roman Emperor" who appears in the Apocalypse of Pseudo-Methodius.  The Kliuev poem could be discussed here as well. - Smerdis of Tlön 16:38, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete, confused WP:OR essay, and someone give the author his medication, please. Sandstein 16:40, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per it is a WP:OR essay. Hello32020 19:59, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete essay Danny Lilithborne 21:45, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete as WP:OR violation, and damn close to a WP:POINT vio. --Aaron 22:51, 14 October 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.