Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/François Coyle de Barneval


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The result was delete. Eddie891 Talk Work 19:57, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

François Coyle de Barneval

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I can't find anything beyond a few trivial mentions that only say that he was a merchant who married Jeanne Dupleix's daughter. That's not significant coverage, and he can't inherit notability from his mother-in-law. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 18:32, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
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 * Delete as non-notable biography. Only passing mentions in regards to his relations in sources. Cannot find anything more in-depth. Vladimir.copic (talk) 19:55, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep/merge There's more information to be found in works such as The Church in Madras and Fort St. George, Madras: A Short History. Policy WP:ATD applies, "If editing can improve the page, this should be done rather than deleting the page." Andrew🐉(talk) 21:01, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Unless I’m mistaken, these two sources (by the same author) would not give WP:BASIC. The Church in Madras very briefly talks about a ‘Frances Barneval’ which would be hard to draw much information from. Fort St. George, Madras: A Short History Of Our First Possession In India does not mention Francois at all but lists his father Anthony Coyle de Barneval. Happy to be corrected if I’ve missed something. Also - what do you propose to merge this article with? Vladimir.copic (talk) 22:00, 18 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete: There are a number (like a large number) of sources that mention Barneval; however, they are all one sentence snippets that say that he was married to the daughter of the Dupleixes and was a merchant employed by the EIC, apparently as a recordkeeper. However, nothing provides WP:SIGCOV, and he's not enough of a historic figure that we can tolerate lacking sources. Curbon7 (talk) 23:17, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Passing mentions are not significant coverage. Please do not misrepresent these as establishing notability. Reywas92Talk 14:07, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete clearly NN. We have noting about him except some genealogy.  I note there was an Irish gentry family Barneval of whom he might have been a scion.  Peterkingiron (talk) 14:17, 23 August 2021 (UTC)


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