Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fran O'Leary


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The result was keep. I can see this as possibly being discussed again in the future given the number of arguments that this individual just barely passes the WP:GNG, and would therefore recommend to the article's contributors that they focus on establishing notability to firm this up. (non-admin closure) Red Phoenix  let's talk... 17:33, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Fran O'Leary

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Contested PROD. Has not played/managed a fully pro club nor received significant coverage. Therefore he fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. – Michael (talk) 05:54, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
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 * Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. GiantSnowman 19:03, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep - Meets WP:GNG with significant media coverage such as . Nfitz (talk) 02:45, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
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 * Weak delete - concur with NFitz that the link above is pretty significant coverage in a reliable national source, but one article for an assistant manager who doesn't appear to have won any NCAA Div I championships is stretching GNG a bit. Would be happy to change the vote if significant non-routine coverage of his college career can be shown. Fenix down (talk) 12:31, 27 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep. He has plenty of coverage to satisfy WP:GNG. See 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. Also, it's worth noting that O'Leary served as interim head coach of Toronto FC while awaiting Nelsen's arrival. Tchaliburton (talk) 12:42, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment - I'm not sure about that from these sources.
 * 1 is a word for word copy of the interview that Nfitz put forward for GNG, just in a different place.
 * 2 is just WP:ROUTINE coverage of his appointment with a statistical summary of his college career, nothing in depth at all.
 * 3 deals with the man in a bit more detail, could be used to support GNG if there was a fair bit more like this and not just covering his Toronto appointment which at the moment raises WP:BLP1E issues.
 * 4 should be rather from the title this is not about O'Leary, but about Ryan Nelsen and only mentions O'Leary tangentially and in passing.
 * 5 Is 2 sentence summary of an appointment at his previous college, the very definition of WP:ROUTINE.
 * Regarding the fact that he served as interim head coach, there is no indication that he actually took charge of any competitive games.
 * Looks to me like there have been about two interviews of any significant length all based around his appointment as an assistant coach. I still think we are a fair way from GNG. Fenix down (talk) 13:02, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
 * According to WP:SIGCOV "'Significant coverage' addresses the topic directly and in detail, so that no original research is needed to extract the content. Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention but it need not be the main topic of the source material." Based on this there is enough coverage to meet WP:GNG. Tchaliburton (talk) 18:06, 27 August 2014 (UTC)


 * I just found a detailed piece about his college career and another about his work with Toronto FC. Tchaliburton (talk) 18:22, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I added some of these, and some others (for some reason there are front page articles today in the newspaper). And restored a reference, that I assume User:Tchaliburton deleted in error. Nfitz (talk) 17:38, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica1000 02:27, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

 
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica1000 06:41, 10 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep – Kingjeff (talk) 04:29, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
 * can you please clarify why do you think this article should be kept??  Jim Carter (from public cyber)  20:53, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
 * He's an assistant coach in a fully professional league. I don't know if there is an official consensus regarding assistant coaches. But there are sources about him. So, I think he meets WP:GNG. Kingjeff (talk) 00:28, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks . Always add a rationale after you add a !vote. It will help the closing admin/editor to judge properly. For more information see this. Thanks again,  Jim Carter (from public cyber)  04:39, 17 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Weak Keep - He has coached at some professional teams, but only as an assistant. With the media coverage he has received, I think he only just scrapes through to pass WP:GNG. IJA (talk) 09:18, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep per Tchaliburton and think he marginally passes WP:GNG.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 04:10, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
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