Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Frances Swan


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The result was   delete. seicer &#x007C;  talk  &#x007C;  contribs  03:41, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Frances Swan

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Does not establish biographical notability. Article admits that she is among the "most obscure" of the contactees. ScienceApologist (talk) 17:09, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. Oh, this is interesting.  Example text:  In April 1954 Mrs. Swan began to receive messages from Affa of Uranus, who was in command of spaceship M-4 currently orbiting the earth, and later from Ponnar, commander of another orbiting ship, L-11.  A good biographical article could possibly be made out of this, if you fixed this tone of wild fantasy into something more factual, but then you're back to the notability problem, which is where we started.  --Lockley (talk) 17:51, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete: Fails WP:BIO. Schuym1 (talk) 21:18, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete No third-party, non-trivial, reliable sources. Fails WP:N, WP:V, WP:BIO. -Atmoz (talk) 18:26, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment. There is a third party reliable source helpfully placed under the heading "References" in the article. The author and publisher come with perfectly good non-fringe academic credentials. This just leaves your claim that the source is trivial. I presume that means that you have read it, or how else have you determined this? Could you please let us know how extensive the coverage is? Phil Bridger (talk) 20:09, 12 January 2009 (UTC)


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