Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Francesco Carrozzo


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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 22:35, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Francesco Carrozzo

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Poorly sourced biography on a non-notable person. Fails WP:MUSICBIO, WP:BIO, and WP:GNG (sources seem to just have passing mentions). Adam9007 (talk) 15:06, 25 May 2020 (UTC) What are these reliable sources? Are not discog, IMBD, published websites not enough to become reliable sources ?
 * Delete There is nothing in terms of in-depth coverage by reliable sources. Also note that a version of this article with the same sources was rejected at Draft:Francesco Carrozzo. Best, GPL93 (talk) 15:10, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Citing_IMDb explains this better than could. IMDb may be okay as an external link, but it's not considered a reliable source because basically anyone can just put anything there. Adam9007 (talk) 15:30, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

What websites are reliable sources then since it's 2020 and nobody writes many books about sound engineers anymore. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Serotonine69 (talk • contribs) 15:34, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Generally, reliable means that the source has a reputation for editorial oversight and fact-checking. What websites are and aren't reliable can be controversial, especially for BLPs. See also Biographies_of_living_persons. Adam9007 (talk) 15:43, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

There are countless of articles with "too close to the subject" websites and imbds that are up and going and no other references, why are we making an exception to this page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Serotonine69 (talk • contribs) 15:53, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Please read WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. There are millions of articles and only several thousand editors so sometimes articles just just haven't been flagged yet and they could also stand to be deleted. Best, GPL93 (talk) 18:42, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

I'd like to know what sources are lacking of credibility and where the article is promoting the subject. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Serotonine69 (talk • contribs) 22:33, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Lets go through the sources, which Liance told you were not reliable over a month ago at the draft bvefore you decided to try to game the system. Both The Odyssey Online and Medium (sources 1 & 2) are self-publishing blog sites so definitely do not indicate notability; Both IMDB and Discogs (3, 4, 6 & 7) are crowd-sourced, user-generated sites so also do not indicate notability; that leaves us with the Hear Up article (5), which is A) not reliable as it is also a self-publishing site and B) an interview and generally interviews do not count towards notability. Also it is written by an admitted PR agent and SEO writer so clearly also a paid piece. I am going to ask you to disclose your relationship with Carrozzo per WP:COI. Best, GPL93 (talk) 23:55, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

I'm an editor inspired and amazed by the accomplishments Carrozzo's had even by been an influential professional on The Game new record and thought it was someone worth an article on here since his contribution to the record as a sound mixer. I do not know him in person nor I am I affiliated with him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Serotonine69 (talk • contribs) 01:53, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
 * and you just happened to have a copy of his professional headshot on hand? You list it as an own work and if you did take the photo you would almost certainly have to known the subject on some level. GPL93 (talk) 02:18, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

you can find this same headshot on his Instagram and his websites/imbds :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Serotonine69 (talk • contribs) 03:53, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
 * If it is not you own work like you declared then it needs to be deleted as a copyright violation. GPL93 (talk) 04:08, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

ok I've deleted it :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Serotonine69 (talk • contribs) 05:06, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete a non-notable person in the music business.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:14, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
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 * Delete A biography on a non-notable person, with poor sources. Fails WP:MUSICBIO, WP:BIO, and WP:GNG — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexdlp10 (talk • contribs) 08:51, 27 May 2020 (UTC)


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