Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Francesco Giorgi (former assistant at the European Parliament)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to Qatar corruption scandal at the European Parliament. Aoidh (talk) 03:28, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

Francesco Giorgi (former assistant at the European Parliament)

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Absent the corruption charges, no notability to this individual. Delete as per WP:BIO1E and WP:PERP.  Onel 5969  TT me 15:55, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Aintabli (talk) 17:20, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politicians and Italy.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 18:00, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Qatar corruption scandal at the European Parliament. Clear WP:BIO1E. Nomader  ( talk ) 15:23, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I've struck my "Redirect" and moved to Merge per note below from Queenofboston pointing out that there's information that would definitely benefit the redirect target. Nomader  ( talk ) 14:55, 7 April 2023 (UTC)


 * This individual is key in the set up on an influence scheme. This is evidenced well beyond the criminal charges in Belgium, as his family members were involved in setting up another structure in Italy allegedly to channel funds. His actions and background to the extend that they are explained by established media outlet are relevant. If this page is deleted, readers will not be able to find a reliable background on this individual, especially as there is a lot of less reliable sources available on the internet,this page distilled the information only from reliable sources. The coverage of this individual in reliable sources is ample and goes beyond the criminal charges, he is discussed in many articles still being written, for example on 29 March 2023. Queenofboston (talk) 08:51, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Instead of a redirect then, would a merge of the relevant information still not be appropriate? They're searching for information on him based on the corruption scandal, and the entire page as it stands is currently all information about his involvement in said scandal. All of that would be helpful context for readers of the Qatar corruption scandal at the main page, and a redirect target from his name could direct people right to the information. It wouldn't be putting the article at WP:TOOLONG either, and he is clearly only currently notable for this one incident (unlike Kaili, for instance). Nomader  ( talk ) 14:46, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 21:53, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep. WP:SINGLEEVENT says: "If the event is highly significant, and the individual's role within it is a large one, a separate article is generally appropriate."  This appears to be the case here. -- Toddy1 (talk) 13:46, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
 * It's worth mentioning that the example provided there is literally assassins of major political leaders like Gavrilo Princip, who killed the Archduke Ferdinand and started WWI, while George Holliday who videotaped the Rodney King incident is relegated to a mention in the event's article. If Giorgi had a more notable career or had been involved in one more incident or thing, then a redirect or merge wouldn't make sense here, but he clearly doesn't reach Princip levels of notoriety and feels more at a Holliday level. Wikipedia would be better served by containing his background information at the main article. Nomader  ( talk ) 14:54, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
 * In terms of relative involvement, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed's involvement in 09/11 would have seemed a better analogy, than someone who made a 9 minute video and then got it published. Like Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, Giorgi spent many years as part of a conspiracy that led to the notable event (though the arrests of Giorgi and the other conspirators was a lot less notable than 09/11). -- Toddy1 (talk) 17:24, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Merge to Qatar corruption scandal at the European Parliament. This article is five paragraphs long, doesn't even indicate what makes the subject notable until the third paragraph, and then the rest of the article doesn't make much sense if (like me) one hadn't heard of the Qatargate scandal before. Contrary to the claim above that "The coverage of this individual in reliable sources is ample and goes beyond the criminal charges, he is discussed in many articles still being written, for example on 29 March 2023", the cited article only mentions Giorgi in one sentence in the 12th paragraph, and in the context of his being involved in this scandal. If this article is kept, I recommend changing the title to Francesco Giorgi (Qatargate), a disambiguation classifier similar to, for example, David Young (Watergate). --Metropolitan90 (talk) 05:48, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge condensed sourced contentt to Qatar corruption scandal at the European Parliament. This is a WP:BIO1E and tehre is a good target for a redirect.  // Timothy :: talk  03:38, 13 April 2023 (UTC)


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