Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Francis Conole


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to 2022 United States House of Representatives elections in New York. Liz Read! Talk! 05:23, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

Francis Conole

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Fails WP:NPOL. Coverage is routine campaign coverage and he is not otherwise notable. Suggest redirecting to election page and recreating in November if he wins. Marquardtika (talk) 02:41, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete Iraq war vet doesn't make him notable, potential politician isn't notable either. Wiki isn't for promoting your campaign, which I think was the intent of the article. Oaktree b (talk) 02:49, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politicians, Military, Iraq,  and New York. — hueman1 ( talk  •  contributions ) 03:35, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment do we have other examples where we've deleted or redirect an article for a politcal candidate from a major party? I only ask because I've noted to remove articles for candidates in the past but they were always in a minor party and my gut say we should keep this article since he's a candidate with a lot of coverage. But if we have examples of where we've removed similar articles in the past then I'm all for keeping things consistent and fair.  Dr vulpes  (💬 • 📝) 04:23, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * See POLOUTCOMES. It is usual that candidates are redirected to the campaign page about the election, in this case 2022_United_States_House_of_Representatives_elections_in_New_York. If you look at the archives page for politicians, there are many examples of candidates redirected or deleted. - Enos733 (talk) 04:28, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * To add on to this, this is what the notability guideline says for "substantial coverage" that would be required to pass for those who haven't held office or been elected to office:
 * Generally, a person who is "part of the enduring historical record" will have been written about, in depth, independently in multiple history books in that field, by historians. A politician who has received "significant press coverage" has been written about, in depth, independently in multiple news feature articles, by journalists. An actor who has been featured in magazines has been written about, in depth, independently in multiple magazine feature articles, by magazine article writers. An actor or TV personality who has "an independent biography" has been written about, in depth, in a book, by an independent biographer.
 * I don't think such independent coverage exists for this person. Duonaut(talk &#124; contribs) 04:40, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. Fails WP:NPOL. May pass later, or if he becomes a notable perennial candidate, etc. and in that case undeletion may be in order. But I would say that as most coverage surrounds his campaigning and coverage of his service as a policy advisor is minimal he does not pass NPOL. Duonaut(talk &#124; contribs) 04:30, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Redirect to 2022 United States House of Representatives elections in New York as is longstanding standard practice for the vast majority of unelected political candidates. We do not need to host tens of thousands of barely disguised campaign brochures. If this person wins in November, the article can be recreated at that time. Cullen328 (talk) 04:34, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Redirect to 2022 United States House of Representatives elections in New York per WP:POLOUTCOMES and Cullen328's reasoning. Best, GPL93 (talk) 13:59, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Redirect to 2022 United States House of Representatives elections in New York, no reason not to have the more specific redirect. Devonian Wombat (talk) 23:46, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Redirect to 2022 United States House of Representatives elections in New York. Djflem (talk) 19:02, 3 October 2022 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.