Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Francis James (missionary)


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The result was   keep. B music  ian  07:00, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

Francis James (missionary)

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Unsourced article. No existence confirmed.

'Willy'  'Weazley'  15:32, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep The article actually does have sources, though it appears the article creator is not familiar with Wikipedia referencing practices, since he uses raw URLs and cites some other Wikipedia articles. To verify there was such a missionary, see a book in the Stanford University library which says "Xiu Yaochun (秀耀春, Francis Huberty James, 1851-1900), missionary from Britain, taught in the Imperial University, Peking (京师大学堂)."  Substantial coverage in reliable sources is needed: see a book on missionaries in China, which has extensive coverage of this person.  (check for copy/paste, might need rephrasing in Wiki article). His martyrdom in 1900 is verified by . He is also covered extensively in . In sum, the subject satisfies WP:BIO and the article needs editing rather than deletion. Edison (talk) 17:05, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep I too have searched Google Books. Seems to be notable. --Colapeninsula (talk) 17:32, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
 * CommentI have generally revised the article, improved the form of referencing, and have added a number of references. Edison (talk) 19:55, 14 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Speedy Keep - "Unsourced" not a valid criterion for deletion for a DDB (Dead Dude Biography). Nor is it applicable. As for the argument "No Existence Confirmed," a five second spin of the internets produces Alvyn Austin, China's Millions: The China Inland Mission and late Qing Society, 1832-1905. Terrible nomination. See WP:BEFORE. Carrite (talk) 21:46, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions.  — Frankie (talk) 19:09, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions.  — Frankie (talk) 19:09, 15 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Speedy Keep - many reliable sources now in article; clear failure of WP:BEFORE. -- 202.124.75.13 (talk) 07:36, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep -- The article now has a long list of citations. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:03, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
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