Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Francis Villain


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The result was   delete. Secret account 01:08, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Francis Villain

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This biographical page fails to address the requirements of WP:ARTIST. Testing the sources quoted, I note that the Guardian and coutorture.com fail to actually mention Villain. Checking Google News there are no mentions of Villain. Ash (talk) 11:39, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Note, websites that do not mention Villain have now been removed.—Ash (talk) 08:27, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Tim Song (talk) 01:23, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Not notable film maker, no credible evidence that he really collaborated with Lagerfeld. The rest of the article is gossip. --Vejvančický (talk) 15:58, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fashion-related deletion discussions.  -- Ash (talk) 08:19, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions.  -- Ash (talk) 08:25, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
 *  Keep WP:INCUBATE as experimental filmmaker and artist whose work receives critical acclaim and many positive reviews.,  The unsourcable Lagerfeld stuff can be trimmed way back and the article can be allowed to grow based upon his work in film and theater.   Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 19:46, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm puzzled by the links you provide here. In the Google News link you provided the first three sources I checked don't mention Villain and in the second, a general Google search, the only match to his name seems to be for the poem he provided.—Ash (talk) 22:43, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry for your puzzlement. The title Harry un ami qui vous veut du bien is a multiple award-winning and critically acclaimed  feature film for which Villain receives writing credit. If his work receives acclaim, that acclaim is his. Sorry I did not make that more clear. What this article dearly needs is input from French language-reading Wikipeians that can translate the sources.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 23:58, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
 * From the link you provided, Villain is not credited as one of the writers but for the contribution of a poem. None of the awards listed are for the poem itself. Are there any sources that establish notability for being a film maker or should his notability be based on being a poet?—Ash (talk) 00:06, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
 * No need to look yourself... as here's a few I found with a quick search that list him as screenwriter for the film: Films de France, Cinemotions (fr), the Auteurs, dvdtiole (fr), eudaimo, Outnow (grman), pg10... and there are many othres in many languages... some undoubtably more reliable than IMDB. If multiple sources say writer... I'm happy giving credence to the multiple. And I will go now and check to see if the writers of an award-wining film have any expectation of notability for their work ultimately winning awards. Thank you.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 00:51, 2 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Weak Delete At the very least, get rid of the unsourced gossipy stuff. Rudybowwow (talk) 15:05, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Heck yes. His notability lies elswhere.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 23:58, 1 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Modified my view slightly from keep to send it WP:Incubate. I do not have the expertise or language skills to search French language sources. If placed in the incubator, the stub may receive the help I am unable to provide.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 01:11, 2 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete Unsourced bio. Hipocrite (talk) 14:33, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Might not an incubation and assistance from French Wikipedians over time improve the article and the project?  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 20:53, 3 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete. His only claim to fame is that film, but "Dans le film Harry, un ami qui vous veut du bien, de Dominik Moll, Harry déclame un poème de Francis Villain, Le Poignard en peau de nuit." He had a poem read in the film, he wasn't a writer. Fences  &amp;  Windows  00:01, 9 December 2009 (UTC)


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