Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Francisco J. Viñas


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. No prejudice against anyone creating a redirect. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  15:22, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Francisco J. Viñas

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Non-notable subject that does not meet WP:BASIC. Coverage found in searches for independent, reliable sources is limited to minor passing mentions, quotations from the subject and name checks. The article is almost entirely reliant on primary sources, which do not serve to establish notability for Wikipedia's purposes. Furthermore, per: WP:SPIP: "The barometer of notability is whether people independent of the topic itself (or of its manufacturer, creator, author, inventor, or vendor) have actually considered the topic notable enough that they have written and published non-trivial works of their own that focus upon it—without incentive, promotion, or other influence by people connected to the topic matter." – North America1000 10:39, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
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 * Keepsignificant leader in the LDS Church.John Pack Lambert (talk) 02:15, 23 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Comment – There is no guideline or policy that provides presumed notability for Mormon subjects or leaders. Subjects that the LDS church considers to be noteworthy are not automatically notable as per Wikipedia's standards. Multiple, independent reliable sources that provide significant coverage about the subject are needed to qualify notability and an article. Such subjects do not get a free pass for an article without said independent coverage, and personal opinion that a subject is notable by default per being a leader in the LDS church is not backed by any Wikipedia notability guidelines. North America1000 09:54, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, SkyGazer 512 Oh no, what did I do this time? 23:08, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete I can't find significant independent reliable sources to demonstrate notability for the subject. Doesn't seem to meet either WP:GNG or WP:ANYBIO. PohranicniStraze (talk) 01:57, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete Can't find indepth independent sources. (In fact, even the LDS sources are fairly short.) --GRuban (talk) 21:04, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of general authorities of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Given that proposals to exempt LDS leaders from the WP:GNG have consistently failed to achieve consensus support (see examples in 2014, 2016, and 2017), the subject has to be evaluated under WP:GNG. Sources currently in article are not independent under WP:IIS or not WP:RS and therefore do not count toward establishing notability. Search does not find WP:SIGCOV in independent reliable sources, only passing mentions in church-related announcements and short quotes reprinted from official church sources. So the subject does not seem to pass WP:GNG. A sensible alternative to deletion is to redirect to List of general authorities of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, where information on the subject is already presented. Open to alternatives if in-depth coverage emerges. Bakazaka (talk) 00:47, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. The subject lacks in-depth coverage in independent, reliable secondary sources as required by WP:GNG. MBlaze Lightning  03:55, 1 September 2018 (UTC)


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