Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Franco Noriega


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Cavarrone 07:37, 5 November 2016 (UTC)

Franco Noriega

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I declined this at AfC because it was not only an advertisement and questionable notability, but the sources themselves and even the ones listed now are literally only interviews complete with professionally taken flashy photos of either him or the boldly "naked photos", and they even go as far to then advertise them and his businesses, it's still therefore advertising wherever published, the listed sources are examples of this. Take the GQ for example, it literally not only says "How he maintains his six-pack" but it's an interview of the man talking about himself and his own career, it's not substantial or independent; likewise, take the NY magazine which clearly and blatantly not only advertises him, but cares to state "Give him his own TV show!". My own searches of News noticeably found large numbers of these exact same contents republished along with said professionally taken flashy photos.
 * When an article largely consists of that, whatever, whoever and wherever they are, it's still advertising, and the fact he simply happens to own some NY-based restaurants carries no inherited notability nor the fact it cares to specifically mention all of his modeling companies. Simply being in NY and having news sources interview you is not a sole basis of notability because it's actually an excellent example of advertising, especially when he's advertising not only himself but the restaurants, what they are, where they are, etc. Also, in the past before, we have explicitly deleted such articles because of the sheer advertising and how there was simply nothing both substantial and non-advertising to actually fix and save, this is an example of that. SwisterTwister   talk  23:59, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Its worth noting that two of the sources/further reading links are non-NY based sources - a national magazine GQ and a British paper the Telegraph. I would be more concerned with what you said was only in NYC press, but it drops when it goes outside of the "hot new restaurant" in the local media sphere. RonSigPi (talk) 23:30, 30 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:GNG and WP:PROMO. My searches found nothing WikiNotable. Narky Blert (talk) 00:26, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep. An Olympic-standard swimmer who has now received plenty of coverage as a chef. Claims that the coverage that exists, from multiple countries, constitutes 'advertisements' and are 'promotional' seem to lack merit, and the fact that coverage contains 'flashy photos' is not a valid reason to discount them. --Michig (talk) 06:30, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. GSS  (talk) 11:34, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
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 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. North America1000 15:14, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
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 * Weak Keep I checked this Peru at the 2004 Summer Olympics and he isn't listed. There are no swimming sport specific guidelines, so it all falls to GNG.  I worry about the quality of the sources.  A lot of them talk about his Olympic credentials - would be great if he were actually an Olympian.  That makes me question the journalistic integrity of what is written.  For example, are they just promoting what he says without doing any fact-checking?  The Telegraph article says he qualified, but was injured so maybe some are taking literary license.  That being said, GQ, NY Post, NY Magazine, and Telegraph are all major publications and they seem to go beyond WP:ROUTINE.  In view of this keep with some reservation. RonSigPi (talk) 23:10, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment this article says he qualified for Athens 2004 but didn't compete due to an injury. — Yellow Dingo&#160;(talk) 09:27, 31 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep – Meets WP:BASIC per a review of available sources, such as some I added to the article. More are available in online searches. North America1000 18:44, 31 October 2016 (UTC)


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