Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Frank Addivinola


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The result was   redirect to Massachusetts's 5th congressional district special election, 2013. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:22, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

Frank Addivinola

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There's no indication of notability. Designate (talk) 01:32, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep. He's running for office and is the only Republican by far to run for Markey's seat. I was going to add more info later.-- Billybob2002 (talk) 01:46, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

If he got the nomination, would that make him notable? -- Billybob2002 (talk) 01:48, 19 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete. To answer Billybob's question, the only thing that would make Addivinola notable is significant coverage in reliable sources (see WP:GNG). I'm not finding anything but a few passing mentions. DoctorKubla (talk) 07:25, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Massachusetts-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:54, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:54, 19 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Would THIS be enough for notability?
 * No. "Reliable sources" indicate major media outlets, and WP:GEOSCOPE indicates that some ought to not be local ones ... a local blog site definitely doesn't qualify. WP:POLITICIAN specifically boils down to officeholders; nominees are not presumptively notable absent meeting the GNG.  Make mine Delete.   Ravenswing   16:47, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

You shouldn't expect a race that is a local race to get national attention. Why would the national media cover a race that the rest of the nation can't vote in? I'm not from the state, but those who are not into politics from other states wouldn't care. -- Billybob2002 (talk) 00:30, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, no, we wouldn't expect a local race to attract national attention. That is -- I imagine -- a factor in why the drafters of WP:POLITICIAN set forth presumptive notability only for winning officeholders, not for candidates (never mind candidates who haven't even secured a party nomination!), in political races.  As far as whether people would care or not, the whole underpinning of WP:N, the GNG and indeed WP:V is "Has the world noticed the subject?"  If the answer is "No," then the subject isn't notable.   Ravenswing   06:08, 20 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Local races can attract national attention: see Jim Graves who nearly unseated incumbent Michele Bachmman. But Graves was already somewhat notable as an executive. We also have an article for Sean Bielat, who got a strong push from the national GOP and won a respectable showing against a vulnerable Barney Frank. Those two are notable even though they lost. Addivinola isn't notable for his job, and he's almost certain to lose in a landslide. We just don't have an article for everyone who runs in a congressional election. Notability isn't about what's interesting: it's about our ability to write the article thoroughly and neutrally, which requires independent sources to look into the subject and tell us what the story is. Local sources usually just reprint the candidate's press releases. —Designate (talk) 11:00, 20 July 2013 (UTC)

Well, yes, some races get national attention. Just because a race doesn't get national attention, does not mean he's not notable. -- Billybob2002 (talk) 21:32, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Feel free, then, to demonstrate the subject's notability. The top searches turn up (in order) his website, his Facebook page, his LinkedIn page, his Twitter feed -- a sequence that's usually a certain sign of non-notability -- press releases, blogs, and the entry on ratemyprofessors.com for his teaching work at my hometown community college.  There's a sprinkling of local news mentions concerning his various unsuccessful attempts at public office over the last few years, if you dig far enough ... and that's it. Failure of WP:GEOSCOPE with the rest.   Ravenswing   01:36, 27 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 16:05, 26 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete Fails WP:POLITICIAN and has not received significant coverage in reliable sources. --Hirolovesswords (talk) 03:13, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Redirect- To Massachusetts's 5th congressional district special election, 2013, where he (insert - is) already suitably mentioned. Unique search term; save the reader the search result that will land them there anyway. Restore once notability and sourcing guidelines are met. Dru of Id (talk) 17:08, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
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