Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Frank Baker (politician)


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The result was speedy keep. Withdrawn under speedy keep criteria 1 (withdrawn by nominator) - based on Enos733's findings, I'll concede that external coverage of the subject exists that I didn't turn up in my BEFORE search, and the other delete voter (Bearcat) consented to closing as keep. (non-admin closure) creffett (talk) 02:52, 17 November 2019 (UTC)

Frank Baker (politician)

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Non-notable local politician. WP:POLOUTCOMES notes that municipal politicians aren't inherently notable, and while Boston is a major city, the article only consists (after copyvio was removed) of the fact that he's a representative. Also not seeing any significant coverage in a BEFORE search. creffett (talk) 20:48, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. creffett (talk) 20:48, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. creffett (talk) 20:48, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Massachusetts-related deletion discussions. creffett (talk) 20:48, 16 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete, without prejudice against recreation in the future if somebody can do better than this. To be fair, Boston is a large and important enough city that we would very likely accept substantive and well-sourced articles about its city councillors — but this article literally just states that he exists, without saying anything else about him at all, and single-sources that existence to his primary source profile on the city council's own website, which is not a notability-supporting source. The notability test for local politicians is the ability to write and reliably source an article with some actual substance to it, not just the ability to verify his existence with a single self-published "staff" profile — so if somebody can tackle writing an article that actually features some detail about his political career and some quality reliable sources to support it, then that would be different, but this as written is not enough. Bearcat (talk) 00:18, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Likely keep A quick search does pull some reliable sources of his career, from his proposal to change the length of the council term to his position on safe injection sites, to his position on toy guns. However, like Bearcat mentions, there is a bunch of work that should be done to develop a narrative beyond "they exist." --Enos733 (talk) 00:29, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
 * , interesting, I didn't find those in my initial search (I found plenty of Frank Bakers, but I guess I didn't do a good enough job narrowing my search). Based on that, I'm willing to withdraw the AfD and re-tag it as "sources exist but aren't cited" - would you be okay with me closing this as speedy-keep criteria 1 (withdrawn by nominator)? Technically the criteria requires that there not be delete votes, but based on your "delete without prejudice" vote I figure you might be okay with that outcome. creffett (talk) 02:44, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I should have added "and I'm willing to reconsider if somebody can tackle fixing this before it gets closed". Aye from me. Bearcat (talk) 02:49, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Will close shortly. creffett (talk) 02:49, 17 November 2019 (UTC)


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