Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Frank Bayard


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The result was keep. WP:SNOW applies. Stifle (talk) 14:43, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

Frank Bayard

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The bulk of the references are announcements of his becoming the Grand Master of the Teutonic Order. The rest are either not independent or also announcements. Clarityfiend (talk) 11:03, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Christianity,  and Germany. Shellwood (talk) 11:06, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. I think the head of a major religious order should be seen as notable. WP:CLERGY indicates that bishops are invariably considered to be notable; these people have very similar status. -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:12, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep: He is head of a major religious order which is notable position and as of WP:CLERGYOUTCOMES often kept in Article for deletion. ​​​​​​​𝐋𝐨𝐫𝐝𝐕𝐨𝐥𝐝𝐞𝐦𝐨𝐫𝐭𝟕𝟐𝟖🧙‍♂️Let's Talk ! 14:24, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep: per above. ~ Pbritti (talk) 16:01, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep: I expanded the article so not all sources are solely about him becoming the Grand Master. Also, one of the sources is TVP, the largest Polish television network Osarjusz (talk) 16:38, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. Frank Bayard passes WP:NBASIC by attaining significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources. This includes Domradio, Die Tagespost, TVP, and УНІАН. Other sources that can be used to expand the article include this interview with Saarbruecker Zeitung. He also very easily passes WP:ANYBIO#1, having been awarded the Order pro Merito Melitensi by the Sovereign Military Order of Malta, a sovereign international entity with observer status at the United Nations. While the nom complains about the references in the article at the time of nomination, WP:NEXIST notes that [n]otability is based on the existence of suitable sources, not on the state of sourcing in an article and WP:DEL-CONTENT notes that when editing can improve the page, this should be done rather than deleting the page. —  Red-tailed hawk (nest) 16:58, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep He is also abbot. Grimes2 (talk) 17:27, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep WP:CLERGY Lightburst (talk) 17:34, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep There seems to be consensus on this point. The leader of a notable religious organization qualifies and the article should be kept. Go4thProsper (talk) 13:55, 17 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep per all above. Ejgreen77 (talk) 17:19, 17 December 2022 (UTC)


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