Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Frank Lopez

 This page is an archive of the proposed deletion of the article below. Further comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was merge and redirect. Ingoolemo  talk  19:43, 2005 September 6 (UTC)

Frank Lopez
More junk from the wacky world of Wiki brah; article about one character in a movie with no point -- probably an excuse to use the word "Juban". Paul Klenk 09:39, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, major character from major movie. Kappa 11:41, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Note from Paul Klenk: Kappa and friends, think about the consequences... In the past two days, we have seen articles focusing on 1] one scene from a movie (Chain Saw Scene from Scarface) and 2] one character from a movie (Frank Lopez from Scarface). Both were from a user who, in my opinion, is a hoaxer (if WP has a more poltically correct euphemism for this term, let me know).  What would happen if every movie had each character and each scene broken out into separate articles?!  What makes such tidbits notable, and where will it stop?  These were both trifling articles, of little consequence, and don't add to the sum of human knowledge.  If we do in fact want to document films in such exhaustive detail, we need to talk about conventions for titling and organizing these data.  Further, this practice is already migrating to reality TV shows, whose characters are no-name wanna-bes trying to break into show business.  Some of these shows haven't even aired yet, and (in the case of a modeling show) their characters/actors are getting new articles under their names, with links pointing to chat rooms sponsored by the show.  The current view seems to be, "It's on TV, so it's notable."  Since when?  Prove it.  Sorry for the rant, but it needed to be said.
 * I think this is covered by Wikipedia is not paper. Incidentally I regard not covering reality TV show contestants as a gross dis-service to the users. Kappa 19:20, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is also not toilet paper. Tell me, is there any bit of fictional trivia too trivial for you to claim as "notable" or "major"? --Calton | Talk 04:08, August 29, 2005 (UTC)
 * Agreed. This is ludicrous. Heck, covering individual episodes of TV shows is, to me, a waste of valuable resources. Are we not slaves of TV enough without it sticking its septic tentacles down our throats even on the Internet? --Agamemnon2 07:12, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Covering individual episodes of TV shows makes a neglible impact on wikipedia's resources, and there is no reason to think that people using this information are less likely to donate than anyone else. If you want to avoid the septic tentacles of TV, feel free not to hit that "random article" link. Kappa 09:58, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Whoa. There is a huge chunk of red text in the middle of my screen.  So eye-catching!  So...persuasive!  Must...vote...delete...  Extreme Unction 23:26, 28 August 2005 (UTC)


 * Merge with Robert Loggia. Alf Capone 13:23, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete or Merge and Redirect Strongly agree with Paul Klenk comments above. --12.42.48.204 16:23, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect to Scarface. Christopher Parham (talk) 17:30, 2005 August 28 (UTC)
 * Delete. If it was that important, it seems that the editors working on the Scarface (1983 film) would have worked it into the fairly extensive plot summary.  I don't think we need to feel obligated to merge this content into a seemingly well-done article.  -- DS1953 18:38, August 28, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete not notabl. Dunc|&#9786; 18:48, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete (only because a vote to merge and redirect could be counted by some admins as a keep). Denni &#9775; 19:11, 2005 August 28 (UTC)
 * Delete, more Wiki brah nonsense. Zoe 21:50, August 28, 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect. Andrew pmk | Talk 21:54, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect - 5th in cast list on IMDb so could be considered notable (within the limits of Scarface) - but not to the extent of having its own article Barneyboo 21:59, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. Dottore So 22:52, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Scarface-cruft, brought to you by the Scarfacecrufter himself, User:Wiki brah. --Calton | Talk 04:08, August 29, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. feydey 20:21, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not notable enough for an individual article and no need to redirect. Quale 15:56, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
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