Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Frank Maddock High School


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. § FreeRangeFrog croak 04:36, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

Frank Maddock High School

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No assertion of notability. Does not appear to fit any of the criteria in Notability_(organizations_and_companies). --Yamla (talk) 14:43, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete Run of the mill high school Seasider91 (talk) 15:15, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Redirect here. --Why should I have a User Name? (talk) 15:51, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. Hwy43 (talk) 17:34, 2 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Weak keep. Per WP:NHS, "Articles on high schools and secondary schools, with rare exceptions, have been kept when nominated at Articles for Deletion except where they fail verifiability."  The existence of the school is very verifiable.  I wish I could find more articles that discuss the history of and notable programs at the school and notable persons who have graduated from the school, but that will probably take time.--Rpclod (talk) 18:06, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep, meets WP:NHS. Mjroots (talk) 18:31, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep as a high school. No reason to think that with local and hard copy searches sources cannot be found to meet WP:ORG. We keep high schools for very good reasons; not only do they influence the lives of thousands of people but they also play a significant part in their communities. Expansion not deletion is the way to go with such stubs. The Whispering Wind (talk) 18:50, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep - High schools are notable. – Davey 2010 •  (talk)  20:37, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete. WP:NHS does not say that all schools are inherently notable, just that they normally are. Per WP:NSCHOOL all schools must meet WP:GNG and/or WP:NGO. I don't see any indication that this school meets these criteria. Tchaliburton (talk) 21:41, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't see how this school meets those criteria any less than most of the other high schools with articles do. I think it might be getting on time for us to reconsider the existing consensus about high schools, since our notability and sourcing rules have tightened up a great deal over the years and the current situation might be allowing a lot of articles that aren't actually consistent with contemporary standards, but I don't see any reason why this school would be uniquely non-notable under the current inclusion standards for high schools. Bearcat (talk) 01:03, 4 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep per WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES--180.172.239.231 (talk) 00:06, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. 00:12, 3 August 2014 (UTC) --180.172.239.231 (talk) 00:12, 3 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep per WP:NHS and WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES. Easily meets WP:GNG. Hwy43 (talk) 07:12, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES and Notability (high schools). Verified secondary schools are typically allowed a Wikipedia article. NorthAmerica1000 09:09, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't particularly like the current consensus about high schools — most of them really aren't of any special encyclopedic relevance or utility — but it is what it is and the nominator hasn't really shown how this particular one (which does cite sources) runs uniquely afoul of it at all. Keep per WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES. Bearcat (talk) 01:03, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Note that when I nominated the article for discussion, there were exactly zero references and virtually nothing else in the article (and apparently what was in the article was often wrong). Take a look at its state when nominated. It's much better now. --Yamla (talk) 12:58, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Yamla, I think that your nomination was very appropriate and that this instance demonstrates the value of the AfD function. Sometimes deletion is the proper route but sometimes the light shone by nomination results in significant improvement to everyone's benefit.  Thanks for being bold!--Rpclod (talk) 17:36, 4 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep per WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES and have added third party references the school exists and is clearly verifiable.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 15:08, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep This is run-of-the-mill high school. That makes it better than about half of the high school articles so keep per WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES. Jacona (talk) 16:59, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep - well-sourced start to an article. I don't see the problem now. Bearian (talk) 20:22, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep - WP has wisely set a standard long ago that high/secondary schools are considered notable. This is wise because it prevents the community from having to tirelessly scrutinize the viability of the thousands of high school articles when editors time is much better spent improving existing articles or creating new ones as well as improving an amicable working relationship with each other.--Oakshade (talk) 20:53, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep. Article is well sourced and per WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES. SW3 5DL (talk) 04:02, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep as a secondary school per longstanding consensus and precedent. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:34, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.