Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Frank Massar


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The result was   keep. The Bushranger One ping only 12:39, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

Frank Massar

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Notability far from clear. Peter Rehse (talk) 16:04, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
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 * Keep He was often covered in "Tae Kwon Do & Korean Martial Arts" magazine. He was also profiled in the July 1994 issue of "Fighters Martial Arts" and covered in the April, 1999 issue of "Combat". Papaursa (talk) 19:21, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
 * significant changes has been made to the article. can you please remove it deleted status? Antonioyap (talk) 20:09, 26 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep A Google search showed him on several covers of magazines and that should be enough to meet WP:GNG.204.126.132.231 (talk) 20:19, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 01:56, 27 September 2013 (UTC)


 * I was going to close this as a keep, until I looked closer. The referencing is below sub-par, if that's possible: most of what's been added is general links to general websites; it looks impressive but doesn't stand up to scrutiny. A book hit from Kung Fu: Martial Art and Combat Sport is nothing more than a thank-you by an author (no page numbers...), and Fighting Fit by Eddie Ferrie probably (it's hard to tell) probably doesn't count as a reliable source, even if it does little more than attesting the subject's fitness. Really,, 100+ edits for this? We don't get paid per individual edit (only does, and they're under special dispensation), but more importantly, you didn't add anything of substance verified by reliable sources. So, delete it is for me. Drmies (talk) 05:13, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
 * What was wrong with the references I provided above? I've now placed a link in the article to a list of magazines mentioning him (9 times on the cover) and I believe that should be plenty to show he meets WP:GNG. Papaursa (talk) 18:40, 29 September 2013 (UTC)


 * I have taken Drmies's advise and added page nos. other additions to make the case stronger. Can i please have your support?Antonioyap (talk) 21:21, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:07, 7 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep - Sufficient coverage showing in the footnotes to pass GNG. A recognized expert in his field. Carrite (talk) 17:17, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment - THIS Google images search shows two main cover stories on TKD magazine, which pretty much disposes the GNG matter. There is room to improve the article by removing flowery prose and a hagiographic tone, of course. Carrite (talk) 17:20, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep Agree with Carrite's assessment. Finnegas (talk) 13:08, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
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