Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Frank Morrone


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The result was   keep. Mark Arsten (talk) 17:41, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Frank Morrone

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Effectively unsourced BLP. No awards or award nominations for him alone, always as part of a team. Not too many Google hits (about 18k including social media and Wikipedia-clones). Doubtful if he makes WP:GNG The Banner talk 21:27, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 22:41, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 22:41, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Comment: The most glaring thing to me on the page is Reference #8 at the very beginning of the Awards & Nominations section. It's IMDb, which means the whole section was probably copy-pasted anyway. They sourced that section but the Emmy source should violate something since the man is Governor of the Academy of Television Arts & Sciences. — WylieCoyote 11:39, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Comment: Governor positions on the Board of Governors for the Academy of Television Arts & Sciences are positions voted on by your peers who are members of the Academy. In order to become a member of the Academy of Television Arts & Sciences you must prove significant credits in the industry and go through a long review and approval process. To become a Governor, members in your peer group must nominate you to run to represent them on the board and these individual's usually have significant credits and many times are Emmy winning individuals. The Emmy nomination and award process is totally separate and unrelated. The Emmy source is an independent source and is not impacted by being on the Board of Governors. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pro999 (talk • contribs) 16:03, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Alrighty then. — WylieCoyote 00:48, 6 January 2013 (UTC)


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 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Theo polisme  16:55, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

 
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Decline. More work has been done to this article. It could use more prose rather than lists, but it's better than some articles like this. — WylieCoyote 13:59, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
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 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sue Rangell ✍ ✉ 04:22, 7 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep. His notability is established by the awards and distinguished positions.  That EL list could use some winnowing, though. --Arxiloxos (talk) 16:14, 7 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Comment Okay, the article is sourced now. But what is the value of a source like Nominees & Winners for the 69th Academy Awards or Golden Satellite Awards 1999 when Morrone isn't mentioned at all? Plain puffery? The Banner talk 06:14, 8 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Comment I have removed the Oscar reference as suggested and have updated the Satellite Award reference to a page that notes the award recipients. Thanks - User Talk:Pro999 07:30, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay, I hope you are willing to remove other unreliable sources, like lostpedia (a wikia wiki), IMDb and Wikipedia (!). All three can be edited by everyone, even by mr. Morrone himself. It would also be nice to have independent sources from outside the industry. And please source the list of films properly, not like "Black Robe" where you claim he was a nominee for a prize, but he is not even mentioned in the source you gave. Don't make up things! <span style="font-family:'Old English Text MT',serif;color:green">The Banner <i style="color:maroon">talk</i> 14:04, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
 * The Black Robe notation was just a note about the film being a nominee not Morrone. That is why it is just noted in film list not in the awards section.  I can remove that if it's confusing. I'll check for other references as you suggested and see what I can find.  Realistically sources about the subject will be industry sources. They are not world news topics.  Doing my best to try to make the article as detailed as possible with what I can find related to it. = Uesr Talk:Pro999 15:52, 13 January 2013 (UTC)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pro999 (talk • contribs)


 * Keep per meeting WP:ANYBIO for awards and nominations.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 20:59, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep per above. JJ98 (Talk) 05:55, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep, ditto above. Although room for improvement a lot of work has been done by different editors since first flagged AFD. Baldy Bill (talk) 04:23, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
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