Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Frankie Krainz (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete; those arguing for "keep" have been unable to rebut those arguing for "delete" (although, take note Barkeep - a reliable source does not have to be about the subject, it just has to cover it in significant detail). Kudos to User:A Stop at Willoughby for his detailed and thoughtful rationale. Ironholds (talk) 12:01, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Frankie Krainz
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Failed PROD. Relisting under WP:NPASR. Article does not meet notability guideline under WP:BIO, particularly those outlined under WP:CREATIVE. The subject of the article is mentioned in a variety of 3rd party source in reference to the projects he has been associated with, but has not been the subject of any in depth coverage himself.  Barkeep   Chat 13:15, 25 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Weak Keep – Sparse article that needs more content, but it has a couple of references.  ttonyb  (talk) 15:29, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
 * At least one of the two main references do not support notability. The article from presentmagazine.com interviews Krainze about the movie Stuck!. Krainze is not the subject of the article, the film is. The other, nextmodelmen.typepad.com reference, I am unable to view the content because it it blocked from my view, but it appears to be a modeling blog, or in its own description a "blogazine." I need to view first before judging, but I would like to know if this is a reliable source. Barkeep   Chat 15:59, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
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 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:03, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Regards, MacMedtalk stalk 18:05, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Weak keep: morningsun article points to notability, barely.--Milowent • talkblp-r 03:49, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
 * The Morning Sun article is local coverage from the article subject's hometown.  Barkeep   Chat 04:58, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Acather96 (talk) 08:19, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Note Due to concerns voiced at my talk page over my possibly premature/incorrect closure, I've reverted the keep closure and relisted the debate for a third time. Acather96 (talk) 08:21, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - per nom. I've looked at  the references again and this has been a very  difficult decision  to  make, but  we have to  reach  a consensus so  I don't  think  this subject  is truly  notable on the face of the type and quality  of the existing  sources. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 10:16, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete This is a borderline case, but I can't find much of anything that would establish Krainz as notable under WP:N or even WP:CREATIVE. His play, "Goodbye, Kansas," and the festival at which it's being performed have garnered some coverage (Kansas City Star, NPR), and I found a couple of reviews of "Stuck!" but little to nothing about Krainz himself. Unlike Barkeep, I would say the interview in Present Magazine counts towards significant coverage. But the Morning Sun article doesn't, in my opinion, because it's just a human interest story in a small, local paper. In short, these sources are not enough. A Stop at Willoughby (talk) 02:26, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
 * The above deletion debate is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the talk page of either this nomination or the nominated user). No further edits should be made to this page.