Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fred M. Manning


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The result was keep (non-admin closure Legacypac (talk) 08:29, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

Fred M. Manning

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Questionably notable and improvable as the best I found was this (the first two links are the best saying he "made a fortune" and the second "had formerly run one of the largest oil- drilling concerns in the United States" and this so I'm also not sure if this can at least be merged somewhere such as Dwight Eisenhower's article although is it fully needed is the question. This was started by the SPA author and simply has not been changed since starting in February 2009.  SwisterTwister   talk  06:59, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 04:49, 27 October 2015 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 14:49, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete. and do not include in the Eisenhower article. We do not include every friend he had, or everyone mentioned in his papers. That's what the Johns Hopkins edition ofhis papers is for, and his Presidential Library finding list.  DGG ( talk ) 01:23, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep He was profiled in a book: Nathan Aaseng. Business Builders in Oil. Oliver Press, Inc. 2000. p. 131. The article notes: "Fred M. Manning Sr., a prominent oilman in the West for many years, died in a Los Angeles hospital Friday of lung disorder. Manning, 62, had been in poor health several years. A "prominent oilman" likely passes Notability. And there are also numerous sources about him and his company from Newspapers.com. Cunard (talk) 07:31, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
 *  Strong Keep Obits ran in several in major newspapers, all it took was a quick news archive search, which WP:BEFORE should have been done before bringing an oil millionaire to AFD.E.M.Gregory (talk) 18:08, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I want to walk that back. There were two, pere and fils.  The older founded oil company and d. 1958.  His son, Fred M.,  d. 1999. This needs someone with time to straighten it out.  but they probably both get articles.E.M.Gregory (talk) 18:19, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Fixing article to be about Mannings Pere, with mention of fils taken form Denver Post obit.  There is enough here to keep.  I think the article will now suffice.  I have no strong feelings about keeping the last sentence, which I included mostly because one of the sons had Dad's name.E.M.Gregory (talk) 22:49, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Lots more sourcing available on searches that omit Fred's middle initial and combine name with keywords like oil, Kettleman, Oklahoma or drilling, easily found in the trade journals that come up on books google searches, and other searches in the trade press.E.M.Gregory (talk) 23:17, 11 November 2015 (UTC)


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