Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fred White (musician)


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The result was no consensus. Alex ShihTalk 06:35, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

Fred White (musician)

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No demonstrated individual notability for activity independent of his band Earth, Wind & Fire. The existing sources on the article are about the band but with trivial mentions of him. As an individual musician, he fails WP:MUSICBIO and WP:GNG. - The   Magnificentist  18:26, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
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 * Delete as per nom. No individual notability established. May redirect to EWF article as alternative to deletion. pseudonym Jake Brockman talk 19:04, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete - searches did not turn up enough in-depth coverage to show he passes WP:GNG in his own right. Definitely notable as a member of the group, so a redirect to their page would be okay.  Onel 5969  TT me 17:02, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep - This page meets WP:NMG, WP:NMUSIC, WP:NM specifically:Section 1.of (under Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself) and passes WP:GNG

With a review of internet searches and independent music sources, the data clearly indicates that Fred White was a sought after studio and touring musician prior to joining EWF; from Chicago to MoWest (Motown), but you have to do the due diligence to properly document this.

Interestingly enough, Fred White is the only member of the 'Classic 9' line-up that deletion and or redirection is trying to be established. That's a tad bit bizarre.

We can all see that no one has updated this page in several years but thankfully, it is currently being updated on Wiki as well as the Allmusic.com and Artist Direct websites to properly reflect the true and complete documented musical history of this artist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Auntielandra (talk • contribs) 00:16, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep per the work done by Auntielandra, plus a book search name checks him all over the place. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  11:12, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   14:43, 7 August 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Note that the article was expanded after being nominated for deletion, which included the addition of more sources to it.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 01:04, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep, now that we know he was a prolific session musician. Mewtwowimmer (talk) 19:05, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —  Za  wl  09:50, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete I don't see multiple sources covering him in detail. He may be mentioned all over the place but that's not enough. Also it's misleading to say he received a Grammy Lifetime Achievement Award in 2016, that award was given to Earth, Wind & Fire. The other claim to fame, that he received "a gold record as a 16 year old for his work with Donny Hathaway on his Live album" doesn't appear to be mentioned in the source given.--Pontificalibus (talk) 10:16, 28 August 2017 (UTC)


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