Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fred and Linda Chamberlain


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) JAaron95  &#40; Talk &#41;  15:15, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

Fred and Linda Chamberlain

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Inadequate indication of notability, and also poorly sourced BLP promoting a particular point of view on controversial matters.  DGG ( talk ) 16:55, 13 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep I added two third party citations since this page was marked for deletion: (my edits), but I did not follow the instruction "Once the article has at least one reliable source, you may remove this tag." Possibly if I had followed the instruction and removed the tag this deletion debate would not exist. But I also think that the citation of MENSA INTERNATIONAL is a reliable third party source, so I disagree with David Gerard's opinion that it is unreliable or not third party. --Ben Best:Talk 21:13, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
 * procedural note: this is quite separate from the prospective deletion - David Gerard (talk) 23:08, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I have just added another citation, this one to PHOENIX MAGAZINE. David Gerard is ignoring the other citations I added this month. --Ben Best:Talk 00:22, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I have now added two additional citations, one from Time (magazine), and one from the New York Daily News. --Ben Best:Talk 11:51, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete as it stands or redirect to Alcor Life Extension Foundation - the Mensa article is the only third-party WP:RS, and it's not sufficient for a living biography. The sum total information in it on either Chamberlain is documentation that they founded Alcor. Redirecting there (as founders) would be quite appropriate (and Alcor is unambiguously noteworthy). I am willing to be convinced by e.g. third-party coverage in venues that meet WP:RS that actually talks about their lives as individuals - David Gerard (talk) 23:08, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep Notable within the cryonics movement, founders of Alcor. Sources were added after PROD was made. Should be improved, e.g. Linda is the author of a science fiction novel called Star Pebble. Fred is a cryopreserved individual, which adds notability in that very few people have chosen this route, in combination with being an Alcor founder. Lsparrish (talk) 01:34, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I have added a "Fiction books authored" section to the article, giving citations. --Ben Best:Talk 01:45, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- RoySmith (talk) 14:49, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep - now appears sufficiently sourced to meet GNG and just about separate enough from Alcor to justify an article.  Artw (talk) 16:03, 21 June 2015 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.