Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Frederick Stephens (businessman)


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The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 06:53, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

Frederick Stephens (businessman)

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Prominent businessman, but the sourcing does not show that they meet WP:GNG. Was sent to draft for improvement, but returned immediately without improvement. Similar to Peter Baxendell, who will also be nominated for deletion.  Onel 5969  TT me 11:50, 21 March 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Courcelles (talk) 13:01, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Businesspeople and United Kingdom. Shellwood (talk) 13:19, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep. Chairman and managing director of one of the largest oil companies in the world. I think he's definitely notable. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:34, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete Being Chair of "largest oil company in the world" isn't criteria under WP:BIO, WP:BASIC requires "significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources" to pass which the article fails to provide and unlike Peter Baxendell, this individual does not satisfy any of the three WP:ANYBIO criteria MetricMaster (talk) 10:09, 23 March 2023 (UTC) This user has made 47 edits to Wikipedia. Their contribution history shows that 38 of these were to AFD discussions. The account exists for votestacking and has been blocked.
 * Being chairman and managing director of Shell makes it almost certain that sourcing will be available, probably more likely in hard copy than online given he died in 1978. In fact, one book is already cited in the article. Have you or the nominator read it to determine whether there is information about him in there or have you just assumed it's not relevant as it's a printed book and not an online source? Of course, given the not uncommon name it's not that easy to do an online search for him. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:58, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment. I've added a paragraph summarising a news article from 1949. Looking to add a bit more from 1967. Finding sources is proving difficult. Haven't located an obituary. Rupples (talk) 02:27, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep Enough mentions of him in the Oil and Gas Journal in Gbooks, but I can't access them and can only see snippet view. Based on what's given already and the multitude of sources, it's passed the notability bar. Oaktree b (talk) 13:18, 28 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Weak keep. Agree he doesn't pass WP:ANYBIO but just about passes WP:GNG or WP:BASIC on current sourcing (some of which has been added since nomination). I suspect more coverage of him may be in newspapers with an emphasis on business, like the Financial Times and Daily Telegraph, but can't say for certain. Obviously had an impact at Shell but I would like to see evidence that it's been reported e.g. issues faced, strategies adopted, speeches other than on routine company results presentations.Rupples (talk) 04:46, 29 March 2023 (UTC)


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