Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Free Lebanon State


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy keep. Both a speedy keep and regular keep given nom withdrawal with no deletes, plus a conventionally justified keep over the 7 days. (non-admin closure) Nosebagbear (talk) 11:01, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

Free Lebanon State

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The one citation that is used to prove that it exists, doesn't actually mention the term "Free Lebanon State" There is little to no proof that it exists, outside of one opinion article from gulfnews which doesn't cite anything, the one book that mentions it that provides a citation cites Azar and Haddad (1986) and hanf (1993), but this is very vague. I couldn't find either Azar and Haddad 1986, nor hanf 1993. Hopefully I am wrong here, but due to the very limited evidence that it existed, the actual article by free-lebbanon that the article provides is fairly sketchy as a citation for the existence of a State and doesn't mention the existence of such a State specifically anyway, I am under the impression that the "Free Lebanon State" never was actually a thing. There is actually a few citations on the Hebrew page, but the one actual thing that it really provided as a citation was a book called "בעין הסערה - חמישים שנה בשירות מולדתי לבנון" which I found actually exists, though not much else on it specifically. The Arabic article cites the same thing the English article does, and the Português article cites 2 books for the States existence, one of which is the one I mentioned earlier, the other one is a book that doesn't cite the claim at all, and merely marks it as a date.

UPDATE: My mistake, I found some other books, that talk about it after afd'ing it. Sorry everyone, though a quick note, if you search for books, the vast majority of them are false positives for some reason, but there are way more than 2 that actually talk about it, though some are clearly biased, there does seem to be some more proof that it existed. When I originally searched, I just looked at the Wikipedia citations, news and a general search, and a google books search without quotations, and only the first 2 results mentioned it, the rest I assumed were all false positives.

ShimonChai (talk) 13:11, 27 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Oppose - the article is about a declarational state, which quickly dissipated and disintegrated. It was however very much notable. We have plenty of similar cases with articles, such as Azawad, Bangsamoro Republik and others. Don't expect to find much sources for late 1970s Lebanon in the web, but here is one from the literature: JG Jabbra - ‎1983. Lebanon: Gateway to Peace in the Middle East?.GreyShark (dibra) 14:12, 27 July 2018 (UTC)
 * That's why I made the update, I don't know if blanking the page is considered a proper procedure for stopping an AfD though. ShimonChai (talk) 14:46, 27 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lebanon-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 06:37, 28 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Do not blank the page. Please withdraw the proposal in such case.GreyShark (dibra) 07:31, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 06:37, 28 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Oppose per Greyshark09. One can easily find several books mentioning this state, for example Arab-Jewish Relations: From Conflict to Resolution? : Essays in Honour of Moshe Maʻoz, and Lebanese Army, The: A National Institution in a Divided Society. This article also mentions it: Ambiguity and Conflict in Israeli-Lebanese Relations. Applodion (talk) 19:47, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
 * WP:SNOW Keep. as per Greyshark.  Kudos to Nom for seeing his own mistake.E.M.Gregory (talk) 18:59, 31 July 2018 (UTC)


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