Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Freedom day festival


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete -- JForget  23:14, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Freedom day festival

 * ( [ delete] ) – (View AfD) (View log)

Non-notable local festival run by a local church. No sources proffered (thus failing WP:V). Only three Google hits, two being from the same catchall "Religion Briefs" column in the local newspaper. Zero Google News hits.  RGTraynor  14:51, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete as nn corp/group. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  15:00, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Only just scrapes past a speedy delete, fails WP:V, not notable. WilliamH (talk) 15:20, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Regular (not speedy) delete. No sources proffered; thus, fails WP:V. 69.140.152.55 (talk) 17:08, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete searching turns up only confirmation that the festival exists, not that it's in any way notable. TravellingCarithe Busy Bee 20:25, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge to Radcliff, Kentucky, which has a fireworks show on July 6th for "Freedom Day". The rest of the nation does this two days earlier, on what we nickname "Independence Day".  Mandsford (talk) 21:30, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep or merge to Radcliff, Kentucky - this event would obviously have coverage in Reliable Sources locally or regionally (i.e. newspapers and any books on the town or region). However, a merge would work as well. If anyone tried to work up the town to FA or GA standard anyway the material would have to be readded for comprehensiveness anyway. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 06:54, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: In point of fact, it does not have any such coverage, which strongly implies that this is just something this particular church does that doesn't circulate past its own parishioners. If you've found something we haven't, feel free to add the sources to the article.    RGTraynor  09:18, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I just realised when discussing good and featured work on wikipedia that every one of the many FAs I have worked on significantly (over 20 collaborations) required utilising some form of off-web material. Thus it would be nice to extrapolate and make WP better than just some bland web-regurgitation. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 09:34, 16 May 2008 (UTC)


 * PS: I am in Australia - not my neck of the woods at all unfortunately. Would be good to place a note on the Kentucky wikiproject (I guess there is one), which I might do right now in fact. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 09:35, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Reply: I've no objection to off-web information -- who could have? -- but there are already too many cases in AfD where people suppose that hitherto unknown and unseen reliable sources exist, because, well, they believe they must. To quote WP:V: "If no reliable, third-party sources can be found for an article topic, Wikipedia should not have an article on it."  If the Louisville Courier-Journal has no records of this festival in its archives, the odds of reliable sources existing plummet.  Occam's Razor ought to apply.    RGTraynor  13:04, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. I acknowledge that I do apply criteria of notability pretty loosely and concede my knowledge of the area is limited. I did put a note up for Kentucky folks. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 22:30, 16 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment Surprisingly, this event is not listed on the Radcliff, Kentucky, tourism site. Mandsford (talk) 15:01, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete doesn't appear to be any sort of a notable church festival. Have fun and all that, though.  Coccyx Bloccyx (talk) 17:37, 16 May 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.