Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fremont Elementary School (Battle Creek, Michigan)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was  Delete As described in WP:OUTCOMES, the common outcome has been that elementary and middle schools are not inherently notable enough for their own individual articles. Instead, they are usually written about in an article about the school district. In this instance, we don't have an article about the schools in Battle Creek, Michigan, despite it being fairly well-known for a town its size, and there is room to write about the schools there. As it is, the content is limited to a few sentences. Mandsford 18:19, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Fremont Elementary School (Battle Creek, Michigan)

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Non-notable place as per Wikipedia policy (WP:N) Burhan Ahmed  (talk • contribs) 04:42, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - "In practice articles that are about an elementary or middle school (or equivalent) will normally be merged into the school district article they are associated with, or locality article (such as a village or town) if this is not available. Exceptions to this are when a school article of any level does, or can be shown to clearly have the potential of, meeting the Wikipedia:Notability guideline." from WP:WPSCH/AG. Racepacket (talk) 05:11, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Which leads us to a merge result, not a delete result, correct? Hobit (talk) 06:23, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - per cited policy above and for lack of article content -- Lord Roem (talk) 06:25, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
 * CommentWP:WPSCH/AG is a subpage of a Wikiproject, and not yet a guideline as such as Racepacket states, much less a policy as Lord Roem states. To establish it as a guideline, publicize it widely to get input from a wide cross section of Wikipedia editors, and see if there is a consensus for it as a stand-alone guideline. Some see new standalone guidelines such as this as WP:CREEP and would prefer a sentence in a more general notability guideline. Edison (talk) 18:36, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment - I believe it is a very easy guideline in which to follow. I certainly have no qualms for the article to be 'merged' at a later date, but what more could you include besides a single sentence or two? This article has nothing to stand on alone. Cheers, Lord Roem (talk) 18:50, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
 * As I said below, merge it to the district. Then get to work to announce at the Village Pump and elsewhere the desire to promote the proposed guideline to official consensus guideline, since it reflects practice at AFD. It can be a difficult process, since many hate new guidelines, and there have been several crushed efforts to set up a guideline for schools. The most promising prospect is to add a short section in WP:ORG. Edison (talk) 20:37, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Are we not allowed to have consensus in absense of a formal guideline? I agree with you as to this AfD, but I'm curious as to why you want this to be debated as an all-out WP guideline. Cheers, Lord Roem (talk) 20:58, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge to an article about the school district or locality, as has been past practive for hundreds of similar articles about elementary schools. Edison (talk) 18:36, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Michigan-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 22:52, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 22:53, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect to an article about the school district or locality, as has been past practice for hundreds of similar articles about elementary schools per (WP:WPSCH). This does not  need an AfD discussion. Kudpung (talk) 15:04, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.