Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Frozen Crown


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The result was no consensus. Spartaz Humbug! 22:00, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

Frozen Crown

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Non notable musical band having no in-depth significant coverage in reliable sources independent of them. Each member of the group is non notable & references provided are not reliable sources as they have no reputation for fact checking & lack editorial oversight. They also do not satisfy WP:SINGER. Celestina007 (talk) 13:13, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
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 * Delete - The group doesn't appear notable. I agree. This is a great example to illustrate the principle that "well-known doesn't necessarily mean notable" since we have all kinds of sources about the band, but none of them that I've seen appear particularly reliable. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 19:07, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep - The band satisfies notability requirements in WP:SINGER on at least points 1, 4 and 5. The easiest one to document is 5: Frozen Crown have released two albums on Scarlet Records which comfortably satisfies the requirements for a "more important independent label": the label was founded in 1998, and its own article lists 16 other current artists notable enough to have their own pages as well as more than 30 former artists that do so. I could make a case for the other points, but I don't believe that discussion would be very productive, as notability should now be established and I would prefer to use my time improving this and other articles. As the original contributor of the article, I do take the point that the first version could be better sourced and will work to address that. Laanders (talk) 09:30, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep - I feel that a band with over 13 million views on Scarlet Records is probably more than "well known", they have physical media available and are obviously a successful band — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.75.94.117 (talk) 01:14, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 03:08, 23 April 2020 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   07:45, 30 April 2020 (UTC)


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