Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fuck the dealer (4th nomination)


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The result was   merge to Euchre_variations.  MBisanz  talk 22:57, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Fuck the dealer

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I failed to see any reputable source to confirm the notability of the game. Google mostly shows various blogs and wikis and wikipedia mirrors. No evidence it is actually played. It llook to me more a parody that a real game: if the dealer is easily fucked, why would anyone play this game anyway? Twri (talk) 16:26, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Weak delete While it does sound like mild fun, its notability has not been confirmed by any reputable source that I could find. It is, however, mentioned by several blogs, meaning that if a reliable source is found confirming its existence as a prominent drinking game, I will change my !vote to "keep". The DominatorTalkEdits 17:25, 19 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete Seems a bad case of WP:MADEUP and has no RS.  Lugnuts  (talk) 17:29, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
 * It doesn't look like it's entirely made up due to ample references to it in blogs, but, no it doesn't have any reliable sources. The DominatorTalkEdits 17:40, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Thryduulf (talk) 00:28, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Game-related deletion discussions.  -- TexasAndroid (talk) 18:42, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. The amount of coverage in blogs and other websites suggests notability, and I find mentions in reliable sources to confirm it.  Here's a decent description in a recently published book  (go to page 96, I don't think the link takes you directly there.  It may be a book on drinking games but it was published by Macmillan who are clearly mainstream).  The Suffolk Journal at Suffolk University called it one of "your basic drinking games"  (although they didn't cover it in depth).  Finally, some of the blogs and websites you find on a Google search may well be reliable. Cool3 (talk) 20:22, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. WP:NFT. Not going to consider a college newspaper as a reliable source, even if they are experts on drinking games. And mentions on blogs? Nope. Niteshift36 (talk) 21:22, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge. This is an old Euchre variant normally called "screw the dealer" or "stick the dealer," and the article should be merged here . Possible mention could be made that this game has been coopted by fraternity culture for use in drinking games. RSes for the drinking aspects of the game, while very scarce, do seem to exist: Alex Bash's The Imbible (pages ix and 96-97) discusses the game, for example, as does this article: DeMoss, Corey & Kohut, Adam. "Thursday throwdown: What’s the better drinking game, beer pong or flip cup?" The Oklahoma Daily. August 27, 2008. -Thibbs (talk) 17:34, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * merge as suggested by Thibbs, who clearly knows the subject well. DGG (talk) 04:02, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge per Thibbs. JohnCD (talk) 15:35, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.