Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fukuoka-Kitakyushu

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The result of the debate was keep. Note that this does not preclude merging with another article if a consensus exists to do so. &middot; Katefan0(scribble) 22:26, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

Fukuoka-Kitakyushu
The two cities of Fukuoka and Kitakyushu are 50 km apart, with lots of countryside in between, so it is not a metropolitan area. Both cities are in Fukuoka prefecture, and the former is the prefectural capital, but residents of both do not use or refer to this concept of "Fukuoka-Kitakyushu", which is a misleading one. Also the second statement: "It probably takes up about 1000 to 2000 km2 (400 to 750 sq. mi.) of urban and ex-urban land. " is very vague indeed. So I propose this article be deleted. See also the discussion page. Historian 07:12, July 26, 2005 (UTC)


 * Weak Keep: Even if it is deleted, it likely to re-appear sooner or later. Negative comments will give more information than deleting it altogether. Soredewa 02:27, 27 July 2005 (UTC)


 * Delete: The articles in Wikipedia should be articles, not studies or campaigns. Fukuoka-Kitakyushu is not a metropolitan area but a (political) campaign.
 * I don't think this article will simply be delated; It should be renamed and reorganized. As the article describes that campaign, then it will be appropriate. --Suika, 29 July, 2005

Doesn't anyone else have an opinion? --Historian 04:26, August 18, 2005 (UTC)
 * This nom was never added to a main VfD page; doing so now. Keep, seems like a somewhat valid topic.  JYolkowski // talk 13:51, 5 September 2005 (UTC)


 * Keep. The designation of "Fukuoka-Kitakyushu" as a "metropolitan area" was by government ordinance in 1972.  Therefore, the link to metropolitan area is misleading; I'm going to change it to metropolitan area.  (Incidentally, that "Cities designated by government ordinance" article is (was, I created a better name) tragically misnamed; it applies only the Japanese cities.) Nandesuka 16:51, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep as officially designated metropolitan area. Capitalistroadster 23:03, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. It's #84 on the List of metropolitan areas by population and #83 on the list ja:都市圏人口の順位. Fg2 07:54, September 6, 2005 (UTC)

I think Kitakyushu was designated a metropolitan area in 1963 and Fukuoka in 1972. They were not designated together as "Fukuoka-Kitakyushu", were they? And as for the List of metropolitan areas by population it is admitted at the top of the page that the listing is "controversial". You bet it is! And here is the Japanese Kitakyushu Urban area which is different from the Fukuoka urban area. On the latter page it is specifically stated that there is a term "Fukuhoku Toshiken" (Fukuoka-Kitakyushu urban area) but it is not generally used. OK, people want to keep it. I accept the majority view, but I still think it is an unhelpful expression.--Historian 09:53, September 6, 2005 (UTC)


 * Perhaps merge into Fukuoka-ken as it is hardly a notable term Ashibaka (tock) 18:52, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

OK I have removed the sentence "It probably..." and now I think it can be kept, though I would support a merge as suggested by Ashibaka. --Historian 11:29, September 7, 2005 (UTC)

I have now added the following to Fukuoka-ken: "There are separate economic areas around Fukuoka and Kitakyushu, and very rarely the term "Fukuoka-Kitakyushu" is also used." When does this process finish - i.e. when can we get rid of Fukuoka-Kitakyushu ? --Historian 09:19, September 8, 2005 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.