Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fulvia Celica Siguas Sandoval


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus.  MBisanz  talk 00:24, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

Fulvia Celica Siguas Sandoval

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The article has been flagged for several years as using a single source, being factually inaccurate and failing to meet notability standards. Nothing has been done to address these issues. TechBear &#124; Talk &#124; Contributions 15:23, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Articles for deletion/Log/2013 January 3.  Snotbot   t &bull; c &raquo;  15:44, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. &#9733;&#9734;  DUCK IS PEANUTBUTTER &#9734;&#9733; 15:11, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sexuality and gender-related deletion discussions. &#9733;&#9734;  DUCK IS PEANUTBUTTER &#9734;&#9733; 15:11, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Peru-related deletion discussions. &#9733;&#9734;  DUCK IS PEANUTBUTTER &#9734;&#9733; 15:11, 4 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Preliminary keep. These are regular editing issues. Notability is noted and being one of the first transexuals in Peru would also seem to add to her notoriety. We need to check the facts, and once established, likely meets notability requirements. I have no time at the moment but I can take a look of no one else does. Also it's likely sourcing is in other languages so that challenge needs to be met. The one source states "Fulvia Celica Siguas Sandoval (Peru) has had 64 surgical operations since December 1979 to complete gender reassignment. Of these, over 25 have been to her face and neck, with other alterations including ear reductions, transformations to her legs and arm liposuction. Fulvia – a transsexual TV clairvoyant – hit the headlines back in 1998 when she registered as mayoral candidate in Lima, Peru. She sadly passed away on 10 September 2004 at home in Lima, Peru." Insomesia (talk) 20:56, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Response These are regular editing issues that have been extant for a long time. I would assert that being listed in Guinness is not, by itself, sufficient grounds for notability. TechBear  &#124; Talk &#124; Contributions 05:45, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I'd like to see an effort spent on finding sources in her native language(s). If none truly exist then sobeit. Insomesia (talk) 13:15, 7 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete. Subject is not notable, fails to meet GNG.  GHits shows the Guinness site, but the rest appear to be blogs, social media, etc.  Several GBooks hits, all sourced to Wikipedia.  Only 2 GNews hits, one a passing mention (referring to Guinness).  No GScholar or JSTOR hits.  Wikipedia is not a junkyard.   GregJackP   Boomer!   21:52, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 00:22, 11 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Weak keep: I added a source for her death. The surgeries are suspect. -- Auric    talk  17:18, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the Article Rescue Squadron's list of content for rescue consideration. Diego (talk) 14:15, 17 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep: The 'in memoriam' is from the famous Spanish transsexual politician Carla Antonelli, and I've added a link to a brief from a major Colombian newspaper noting the Guinness record - that should be enough to pass WP:GNG. Diego (talk) 14:34, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  ·Add§hore·  T alk T o M e ! 03:30, 19 January 2013 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.