Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fumi-e


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. A future possible merge/redirect can be discussed/handled independently from AfD. (Closing discussion early). Neutralitytalk 06:59, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

Fumi-e

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Move material. Delete this article which tries to introduce into English a Japanese word, unnecessary to understand the topic. Article fails to demonstrate sufficient English notability for this word. This can be explained as a practice to uncover Christians by demanding that they step on an icon of Jesus or Mary. Or induce Christians to refrain from what they thought was sacrilege. Student7 (talk) 00:39, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep. Move where, pray tell? This isn't a Japanese word for a standard English concept - there is no equivalent because it is a specifically Japanese concept, and one mentioned in most accounts of the Christian purges. Take a look in Google Books and see how often they are discussed (they are a preoccupation of Endo Shusaku, for example). --Gwern (contribs) 00:53 21 November 2011 (GMT)
 * Keep – Easily passes WP:GNG. Did you even check book results? And it's not that it's "trying to introduce" anything into English; it's that we don't have the term "step-on-picture," and all scholarship mentioning its use leaves it untranslated. JFHJr (㊟) 00:58, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep Interesting and notable. Badly sourced, bu that's an editing issue. Not happy about the way a significant section was deleted just before nom.Tigerboy1966 (talk) 01:00, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment This seems like it should be part of larger a series on Persecution of Christians in Japan - Wikipedia has little information on this topic (Fumi-e is somewhat out of context alone). Clovis Sangrail (talk) 01:02, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Feel free to write such an article, not that it'd make a logical merge target anyway, nor would it bear on this AfD. --Gwern (contribs) 01:07 21 November 2011 (GMT)


 * Weak Keep. Not seeing any valid reasons for deletion, but merging the content into Persecution of Christians in Japan does also seem a reasonable course of action. --DAJF (talk) 01:13, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep There are many scholarly sources that already use this term in English, so this article does not try to "introduce" the term into English. It has long been part of English language discussion of Japanese persecution of Christians, and is a notable topic.  Cullen 328   Let's discuss it  01:24, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep. Google book search on "Fumi-e" + japan returns many useful sources. I've added a few to the article, along with some text. --Hobbes Goodyear (talk) 02:28, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep for all the reasons already given. The article is well sourced, as well, and meets no requirements for deletion. ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe ·  Join WP Japan ! 05:10, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.