Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fusion Asset Management


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. There is a consensus to Delete this article based on the quality of the sources, not any commercial "motivations" (whatever those might be, I have no idea). If you want there to be an article on this subject, collect better sources and work on an article in Draft space which you can submit to WP:AFC for review. That's the process here. Liz Read! Talk! 03:40, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

Fusion Asset Management

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Fails WP:NCORP. The sources used are either written by the firm's founder or are interviews with him that rule out independence. I so far cannot see any proper independence sources that provide significant coverage on the firm itself.  Imcdc  Contact  03:36, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Finance and Companies.  Imcdc   Contact  03:36, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions.  WC  Quidditch   ☎   ✎  06:41, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails WP:CORP. 3 gnews hits says it all, lacking third party coverage. LibStar (talk) 03:56, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Just use Google seach instead of Google News. Tarasrybak888 (talk) 15:31, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * See WP:GOOGLEHITS. LibStar (talk) 09:29, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete no evidence of notability. - Altenmann >talk 04:34, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete fails NCORP and Reliable sources. Old-AgedKid (talk) 09:57, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Hedgefund journal, UCITS hedge Funds, Eurohedge and Hedgeweek are not reliable sources? Tarasrybak888 (talk) 15:33, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 *  Delete  fails NCORP. Old-AgedKid (talk) 09:57, 16 July 2024 (UTC) (striking duplicate vote Liz Read! Talk! 03:32, 21 July 2024 (UTC))
 * can you specify exactly how and where it fails NCORP please? Tarasrybak888 (talk) 15:34, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment This company's founder is also up for deletion Articles for deletion/Kirill Ilinski. LibStar (talk) 08:04, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete This is a company therefore GNG/WP:NCORP requires at least two deep or significant sources with each source containing "Independent Content" showing in-depth information *on the company*. "Independent content", in order to count towards establishing notability, must include original and independent opinion, analysis, investigation, and fact checking that are clearly attributable to a source unaffiliated to the subject. I'm unable to identify any references that meet the criteria for establishing notability.  HighKing++ 15:22, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I disagree. Here are examples of independent sources
 * https://www.ipe.com/investment/asset-management-fees-whats-the-going-rate/10012128.article
 * https://www.ft.com/content/e6aff8b0-5480-11df-8bef-00144feab49a
 * https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/trends-in-economics-a-calculus-of-risk/ Tarasrybak888 (talk) 15:43, 17 July 2024 (UTC)


 * I strongly oppose the deletion of the article on Fusion Asset Management for the following reasons:
 * Fusion Asset Management is a well-regarded company within the financial sector, with 20+ years track record particularly known for its innovative approaches to asset management and risk mitigation. The company's methodologies and strategies have been widely discussed and adopted within the industry.
 * Contrary to the claim of insufficient independent sources, Fusion Asset Management has been featured in several reputable financial publications. These include coverage in the Financial Times, Bloomberg, Hedge Fund Journal, and Hedgeweek. These sources provide independent verification of the company's activities, achievements, and contributions to the finance industry.
 * In addition to these, Fusion Asset Management’s methodologies and research have been cited in academic papers and industry reports, further establishing its impact and recognition beyond self-published content.
 * If there are particular sections of the article that do not comply with Wikipedia’s notability and verifiability standards, they can be revised. Specific feedback on which sections need improvement would be greatly appreciated, allowing for targeted revisions rather than a blanket deletion.
 * Deleting the article would overlook the company’s impact and the opportunity to provide comprehensive and accurate information to the public. I urge for a reconsideration of the deletion proposal, focusing on improving the article rather than removing it.
 * Also, I want to point out that Wikipedia articles for Kirill Ilinski and the company he founded - Fusion Asset Management where on Wikipedia for more then 10 years, and no one ever questioned their compliance with Wikipedia policy.
 * The fact that both pages were nominated for deletion (instead of suggesting improvements) just within 2 days, make me think that this can be commercially motivated. Tarasrybak888 (talk) 15:30, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep (or update)
 * I oppose the deletion of the article on Fusion Asset Management for the following reasons:
 * Fusion Asset Management is a well-regarded company within the financial sector, with 20+ years track record particularly known for its innovative approaches to asset management and risk mitigation. The company's methodologies and strategies have been widely discussed and adopted within the industry.
 * Contrary to the claim of insufficient independent sources, Fusion Asset Management has been featured in several reputable financial publications. These include coverage in the Financial Times, Bloomberg, Hedge Fund Journal, and Hedgeweek. These sources provide independent verification of the company's activities, achievements, and contributions to the finance industry.
 * In addition to these, Fusion Asset Management’s methodologies and research have been cited in academic papers and industry reports, further establishing its impact and recognition beyond self-published content.
 * If there are particular sections of the article that do not comply with Wikipedia’s notability and verifiability standards, they can be revised. Specific feedback on which sections need improvement would be greatly appreciated, allowing for targeted revisions rather than a blanket deletion.
 * Deleting the article would overlook the company’s impact and the opportunity to provide comprehensive and accurate information to the public. I urge for a reconsideration of the deletion proposal, focusing on improving the article rather than removing it.
 * Also, I want to point out that Wikipedia articles for Kirill Ilinski and the company he founded - Fusion Asset Management where on Wikipedia for more then 10 years, and no one ever questioned their compliance with Wikipedia policy.
 * The fact that both pages were nominated for deletion (instead of suggesting improvements) just within 2 days, make me think that this can be commercially motivated.
 * Tarasrybak888 (talk) 15:37, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Note: Tarasrybak888 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Commercial motivations are not permitted on Wikipedia. The contributors at this deletion discussion are trying to remove a non notable corporate puff piece from an encyclopaedia. — MaxnaCarta  ( 💬 • 📝 ) 23:15, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Please disclose your relation to the company Fusion Asset Management, per Wikipedia rules of Conflict of interest. - Altenmann >talk 16:04, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Articles existing for 10 years does not mean it is automatically notable and should be kept. Your long winded post sounds like a company employee. I nominated the founder and am not in UK or Russia or have any connection with the industry or competitors. LibStar (talk) 09:27, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * The fact that both pages were nominated for deletion (instead of suggesting improvements) just within 2 days, make me think that this can be commercially motivated.
 * Tarasrybak888 (talk) 15:37, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Note: Tarasrybak888 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Commercial motivations are not permitted on Wikipedia. The contributors at this deletion discussion are trying to remove a non notable corporate puff piece from an encyclopaedia. — MaxnaCarta  ( 💬 • 📝 ) 23:15, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Please disclose your relation to the company Fusion Asset Management, per Wikipedia rules of Conflict of interest. - Altenmann >talk 16:04, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Articles existing for 10 years does not mean it is automatically notable and should be kept. Your long winded post sounds like a company employee. I nominated the founder and am not in UK or Russia or have any connection with the industry or competitors. LibStar (talk) 09:27, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Articles existing for 10 years does not mean it is automatically notable and should be kept. Your long winded post sounds like a company employee. I nominated the founder and am not in UK or Russia or have any connection with the industry or competitors. LibStar (talk) 09:27, 18 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete - insufficiently notable company — MaxnaCarta  ( 💬 • 📝 ) 23:15, 18 July 2024 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.