Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Futbol Club de Real Bigone


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   speedy delete. per WP:NOYOUDONTGETTOKEEPYOURINJOKEONWIKIPEDIAFORSEVENDAYSJUSTBECAUSETHATSWHATTHERULESSAY Floquenbeam (talk) 23:00, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Futbol Club de Real Bigone

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Either complete fabrication/nonsense, or else a non-notable amateur/kickabout team. Either way, does not meet any WP guidelines ChrisTheDude (talk) 11:54, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. ChrisTheDude (talk) 11:54, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - looks like a very elaborate hoax; "Real big one" indeed. Even it is factual, the club is non-notable. --  Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 12:06, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep- It is an official competitive club playing regularly against a variety of teams in the dartford area...if you had been anywhere near where the club is situated you would of heard of them...the club has even held discussions with the company nestle about their sponsorship...but i'm sure 'daemonic kangaroo', a man who clearly has nothing better to do with his time other than try to end the publicity of a blossoming grass roots football club, is a more reliable judge of what constitutes a notable football team, than those who run nestle, one of the most successful companies on the planet. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.25.254.10 (talk) 12:27, 14 March 2011 (UTC) — 86.25.254.10 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Keep- I live in the Dartford area and I'm well aware of this club and their current success. They field a multi-national team, and are ambassadors for non-league English football. If this page were to be deleted due to apparent 'fakery', it would be a complete disgrace. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 136.148.166.50 (talk) 12:41, 14 March 2011 (UTC) — 136.148.166.50 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Keep- I am a nearby Dartford resident and have heard of the club too. There is no justifiable point in deleting the page. — 92.29.180.179 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Keep - The page has relevant citations & factual content. Other teams such as Deportivo Wanka & BSC Young Boys have amusing & could be interpreted as inappropriate names but these pages are up for deletion. Indulgent Author (talk) 12:49, 14 March 2011 (UTC) — Indulgent Author (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Keep - As a member of the club & a supporter I can confirm the reliability of the page & that it is a worthwhile entry upon Wikipedia. The club may not be known worldwide, however it is especially notorious in the Dartford area as well as other areas such as across parts of South London & North Kent. It'd be a shame for the page to be deleted, especially considering the number of supporters, especially those from the Dartford area that this page has as you can see from the posts above. BurtsyWurtsy (talk) 12:56, 14 March 2011 (GMT) — BurtsyWurtsy (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Keep - This team have been setup from the ground up and just because someone has not necessarily heard of them yet does not mean that they shouldn't get the page they deserve. Nestle clearly feel that the team's community-based aims and agenda are inkeeping with how a modern football club should be run as they decided to sponsor the club, and as they say on their website: "Nestlé aims to invest mainly in partnerships and programmes which make a positive difference to young people's lives." I feel that websites like Wikipedia should encourage the development of clubs such as this and for this page to be deleted would not be a step in the right direction  — 152.78.23.144 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * I moved the above comment here, as the IP put it in the article itself rather than here..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 13:33, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep - I have been involved with the club from its formation, and whilst circumstances may have led to my departure, I can vouch for its genuine existence. It is a club receiving sponsorship that provides a service and sporting outlet for the youth of Dartford, who, lets face it, don't have much hope otherwise. The article should not be deleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.205.196.8 (talk) 14:13, 14 March 2011 (UTC)  — 213.205.196.8 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Delete - seems non-notable. Not playing in a league? Pelmeen10 (talk) 15:13, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep - The league that the team were playing in disbanded last year, so we are currently awaiting confirmation from the F.A to join the current league system in place in our area. Also, we have just received our invitation to the F.A. Cup Preliminary Qualifying Rounds for next year's tournament, commencing on the 13th August. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.78.23.144 (talk) 15:28, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Please don't !vote more than once. Also, that last part is patently not true, as the FA does not invite teams to enter the FA Cup (rather they have to apply), and a team has to have competed in either the FA Cup or FA Vase in the previous season to be eligible anyway -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:53, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep Citations seem to back up. After a quick read the page seems relevant & factual and I for one enjoyed finding out about the club, we have a lot to learn from a multicultural club such as this. Dirk Valentine (talk) 15:54, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm not really sure how you can claim that the citations back up the content, when there are only two citations, one to a Tweet (!!!) saying simply "Real Bigone CF's new kit represents the clubs passion and desire to achieve great things" and one to a random PDF on FIFA's website which contains nothing whatsoever to do with this team...... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:01, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Footballs a funny old game, but I have edited and created lots of football teams pages & to me this one seems valid & genuine. Quite a chip on your shoulder to see this gone, Chris. I assume the word 'dude' in your name refers to the reproductive organs of a camel and not the informal way of addressing a well-liked gentleman. Dirk Valentine (talk) 16:21, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment - This article made me laugh and the club may even exist, but it is well below the bar in terms of notability. As far as I can tell from the article, they have only played one match (against "Athletico Ladrid") which hd an attendance of just four (4) - hardly well supported. I have deleted the incorrect reference that Chris refers to - the twitter page belongs to BurtsyWurtsy aka Anthony Burton/Anthony Burtinho. The whole thing is just oone big joke. --  Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 16:36, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Yet another SPA has popped up, this time posting the following on the article's talk page:
 * Keep - As a father, its nice to be able to find sports teams in your local area for your children. I stumbled across this page today whilst searching for local football teams for the possibility that my son (who is a keen upcoming footballer) may be able to get a trial. I contacted the club and they were very friendly and helpful with our request. I feel it would be a shame if this page was deleted, along with many others i'm sure, as it provides a pathway into exercise and enjoyment for the upcoming generation. Our Dartford community cannot afford for such windows of opportunity to be taken away. Kenny90 (talk) 16:34, 14 March 2011 (UTC)Kenny90 — Kenny90 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Delete - this club falls well short of the relevant notability standard for football clubs and the general notability guidelines. &mdash;BETTIA&mdash; talk 17:02, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - As a Port Vale fan, I'm well aware that there is only one team of note who play at the Princes Park stadium. This mischief has gone far enough now, mirror sites are beginning to pick up on this article, and it will now doubt be immortalized forever in wikibin.org anyway. For this team to be notable they must apply for membership of the Kent County League, then win promotion to the Kent League. If that happens then I will eat my own head.--EchetusXe 17:13, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
 * We currently play on the community pitch next to the stadium. However I would add that Millwall F.C. Reserves play at Princes Park & find it preposterous that being as a Port Vale fan (I assume you're from the Stoke area?) you have more knowledge of Dartford F.C. and the club than a number of people who live in the town. Care to explain how you do? --BurtsyWurtsy (talk) 17:25, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NFT. Usual business of a bunch of students or somesuch thinking it'd be a great idea to create an article about their kickabouts. Oldelpaso (talk) 17:19, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete (EC) Is it April 1st yet? Not notable by any standard, whether you look at WP:FOOTYN or WP:GNG. Only existing reference is to a tweet. I'm relatively confident, given the explosion of single-purpose IP !votes above from purported members of the club, that the club exists, but it's plainly non-notable. ɠǀɳ̩ςεΝɡ  bomb  17:27, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete: Fantasy is great; but let's keep it to the bedroom, guys. Jared Preston (talk) 17:29, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment - the club already has support from charlton athletic's simon francis, he will be posing in a bigone kit in support of its community work...the club also has support from FA cup finalist Gavin peacock, photos of francis in the kit will be available when the clubs kits (paid for by nestle...not very notable) are deliviered...at the end of the day lads if you are willing to donate this much time trying to close down a community club that is supporting teenagers then thats your problem...comic relief soon...lets all close that down next shall we!!! damn do-gooders!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.25.254.10 (talk) 17:36, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete, per Bettia. FkpCascais (talk) 17:43, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep I think that this page is the sort of thing that really needs to be left to its own devices. It is clearly made by an up and coming football team that are trying to put their name out there, just because the team has not been around for as long as Arsenal for example, it does not mean that it isn't worthy of a page. I for one have not seen them play but after a few quick searches on local video sharing websites and forums managed to find many threads pertaining to the club and their aspirations. Moreover, by applying to be a part of the Kent League, which they stated above, they automatically apply to become a member of the Football Assosciation, and as a result gain an entry spot into the Qualifying Rounds of the F.A. Cup, so Chris you should really get your facts right, because I doubt your credentials are better than mine in this field, having just left the Football Assosciation after 22 years as their Football Development Administrator. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.127.120.176 (talk) 17:45, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment Wikipedia is not a promotional tool for teams that are "trying to put their name out there," nor is this article problematic because it "has not been around for as long as Arsenal." It is problematic because it doesn't come close to passing the guidelines at WP:GNG. ɠǀɳ̩ςεΝɡ  bomb  17:53, 14 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep as the former mayor of Swanscombe and Greenhithe (two towns outside of Dartford) i can tell you that these boys not only deserve a wikipedia page but your support as well, for a group of teenagers to start what is essentially a charity project to see it blossom into a team hoping to enter the Kent league is astonishing. And whats more, the club has recieved awards and funding for it's community work and success not only from myself (while i was still mayor) but the mayor of Stone Village as well —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.25.254.10 (talk) 17:59, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment You already voted Mr Mayor. Note that it matters not who votes, or how many votes are on each side, but on the quality of the argument presented. I can guarantee that there is no argument fathomable that can save this article seen as it is a textbook example of what should not be on this website. By the by the location of this mythical match was at the astroturf community pitch, not Princes Park itself.--EchetusXe 18:43, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment The astroturf community pitch is on location at Princes Park, it is owned by the stadium & on the stadiums ground. Secondly your claim the match was mythical is outrageous, especially considering we have camera footage of said match. --BurtsyWurtsy (talk) 18:47, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment seems a bit rich claiming that a match (one which actually did happen) is mythical...coming from a man who, judging by his profile, prides himself on being rewarded virtual (some might say mythical) 'barnstars'. Even when this page does get deleted there will only be one side who really wins, the side who goes out with their friends and socializes, has fun, meets new people and put there efforts into living some sort of a life...while the moral losers of this outrageous debacle are those that were tragically sad and bored enough to find this small, and legitimate, wikipedia page amongst probably about a million other articles (not sure on specific numbers i have better things to do than spend my life patrolling a website for no real gain) and dedicate so much of there time to trying to get it closed down...you sir, and everyone else campaigning to get this page closed down, need to get a life. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.25.254.10 (talk) 19:22, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment Your muddling the concepts of both myth and virtual existence Mr Mayor. Anyway it may surprise you to learn that both myself any many others here have played football before, yet only you and your friends found it necessary to tell the world about your kickabout. Please do go out and socialize with your friends. Only don't create pages here telling us all about your adventures because nobody is that interested. With that I am finished with this discussion, thank you.--EchetusXe 19:46, 14 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete, a newly founded club that has not achieved a notable level of achievement using wikipedia for promotion. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 18:51, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete schoolkid nonsense (see also WP:NFT). Not to mention a swarm of sockpuppet IPs/SPAs showing up to a debate is never the sign of an encyclopedic article likely to be kept. Andrew Lenahan -  St ar bli nd  19:29, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - despite the quasi-hilarious name which gave the kid in me half-a-second of mild chuckling, this article is absolute nonsense. Can't believe an admin hasn't put an end to this charade yet. GiantSnowman 20:42, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep- Up the Bigone! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.166.89.16 (talk) 21:19, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep - Significant team with a growing fanbase. Aiming for Champions League qualification; need a Middle Eastern financial backer first. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.151.239.189 (talk • contribs) 21:26, 14 March 2011
 * Delete. It would be great if "Real Bigone" were sufficiently notable, but sadly they're not. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 22:01, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. I lol'd, but utterly non-notable, and that is assuming it even exists.  Possible (probable?) hoax/joke. Resolute 22:21, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
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