Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Futures (magazine)


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) SST  flyer  01:36, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

Futures (magazine)

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Promotional. No evidence of notability. A reference check shows that literally every source is bad: zero claims cited to RSes, and all external sources fail to verify even the claim they are used for, that the person is linked to Futures. Was PRODed, de-WP:PRODded with comment "I don't necessarily think that the article should be kept, but describes it as iconic." To me that reads like a press release, though I couldn't find other copies of the text. Regardless, even if that one source actually about the magazine were considered a reason to keep, it would still be a WP:TNT case - there's literally no good sources here to base an article on. I could be wrong and I'm willing to be convinced, but ... David Gerard (talk) 20:40, 25 August 2016 (UTC)


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 * Delete and only consisting of PR, nothing at all actually comes close to genuinely stating information for an article here; thus delete by all means. SwisterTwister   talk  05:41, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete -- unreliably sourced WP:PROMO article. My searches do not turn up anything better. K.e.coffman (talk) 21:34, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.  The book notes: "Futures. Chicago: Futures Magazine, 1972–. Monthly. Semimonthly in January, June, and September. (Online subscription and some free information are available at http://www.futuresmag.com/) Futures offers its readers a series of articles on different aspects of futures and options trading. An issue may contain as many as 20 different articles dealing with such subjects as trading techniques, government policy affecting trading, the economy, and developments at specific exchanges. It also includes a section on international markets and news. Although readers new to futures trading may some articles difficult going, for the most part Futures is lively and well written and can be useful to novice investors as well as seasoned professionals. There is also an excellent education section that guides one through the intricacies of futures. On the web page is also a link to the SourceBook (http://www.futuressourcebook.com/). The SourceBook contains the names and addresses of the major U.S. and non-U.S. brokerage, charting, computer, and advisory services, as well as publishers, consultants, and available software. Although not as popular as Futures, another periodical contains data of interest to academicians and other researchers. The Journal of Futures Markets. ..."  The article notes: "Futures magazine, which has been published since 1972, is changing its name to Modern Trader with the July issue. The name change reflects the fact that its coverage has been more than the futures markets for quite some time, said editor Daniel Collins. ... Collins noted that the Chicago-based magazine was originally called Commodities before changing its name to Futures. The magazine has an estimated 50,000 subscribers and is sold at Barnes & Noble and Books-a-Million. Its primary subscribers are professional traders and active investors."  The article notes: "Oster's successes are attributable, in some measure, to the phenomenal growth of the futures industry. In the last two decades, the number of futures exchanges around the world has risen from a handful to more than 50, while world volume has skyrocketed from around 100 million trades annually to more than a half billion last year. Oster's purchase of Futures Magazine, then titled Commodity Magazine, is demonstrative of Oster`s ability to move quickly when he smells a profitable investment. During a casual conversation in 1976, Oster heard that Leon Rose and Mort Baratz, the publication`s founders, were toying with selling the magazine. Next scene: Oster showed up and negotiated the purchase of the publication for an undisclosed price. 'We sold Commodity Magazine for a low six figures, a brilliant move by Merrill and probably the worst business decision I ever made in my life,' recalls Rose, who now is a consultant for Managed Account Reports of New York."  The article notes: "Mr. Joseph, who is the majority owner of Alpha Pages, and his investment partners bought Futures Magazine and its digital operations last year from Summit Business Media. The 43-year-old print Futures Magazine has been profitable and is increasing pages, and plans to add an issue so that it will publish 11 times this year, he said."  The article notes: "The Alpha Pages was founded in late 2012 by Jeff Joseph, a former mutual fund executive and venture capital investor who is aiming to build a suite of media titles focused on alternative investments. Shortly after founding the Alpha Pages, Mr. Joseph bought the trade publication Futures magazine. In August, when Futures publishes its 500th issue, the Alpha Pages plans to introduce a namesake publication as an insert in the magazine. In the future, Mr. Joseph said, the Alpha Pages may print content from FINalternatives."</li> <li></li> <li></li> <li> The article notes: "The CCI, or Commodity Channel Index, was developed by Donald Lambert, a technical analyst who originally published the indicator in Commodities magazine (now Futures) in 1980. Despite its name, the CCI can be used in any market and is not just for commodities. The CCI was originally developed to spot long-term trend changes but has been adapted by traders for use on all time frames. Here are two strategies that both investors and traders can employ." The Commodity channel index was first published in Commodities (which was renamed to Futures)</li> <li> The article notes: "The pictures in Futures magazine's special Profiles issue are worth a thousand words, or at least a couple of hundred. Behind the biographical sketches of 31 of the futures industry's heavyweights are some character-revealing stories about how the magazine's photographers obtained photographs of the figures."</li> <li> The article notes: "On an average day, the Chicago board trades about 345 million bushels of corn and 303 million bushels of soybeans, according to numbers collected from the first nine months of 1997 by Futures magazine, a Chicago publication aimed at traders. That's about as much corn as Ohio has raised each year in recent years and twice as many bushels of soybeans. ... There is another much smaller exchange in Japan and one in Brazil. But in Brazil, taxes on foreign money are so high that it is prohibitive for outsiders to trade on the market, said Jim Kharouf, associate editor at Futures, which has a circulation of 65,000." This is a passing mention but can be used to verify information in the article.</li> <li> The article notes: "New York-based Futures Communications Co., which publishes Futures magazine, announced it is changing its name to Financial Communications Co. and will move its headquarters to Chicago." This is a passing mention but can be used to verify information in the article.</li> </ol>There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Futures to pass Notability, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". Cunard (talk) 23:59, 28 August 2016 (UTC)</li></ul>
 * Those are better than anything presently there, though only the textbook reference says anything actually about Futures itself beyond its existence. Could we write an article based on those references? - David Gerard (talk) 01:08, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, I think there is enough information about Future's history to write an article based on these sources. Cunard (talk) 02:51, 29 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep per Cunard.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:40, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep Plenty of sources provided by Cunard. ~ EDDY  ( talk / contribs ) ~ 12:18, 31 August 2016 (UTC)


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