Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gülbahar Sultan (daughter of Murad IV)


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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:20, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

Gülbahar Sultan (daughter of Murad IV)

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Another self-created article about an imaginary Ottoman figure. Probably it can be put in the same category as the previously deleted articles. I couldn't find any information about her in the sources, but if anyone can then I think we can keep it. Otherwise it should be deleted. Keivan.f Talk 07:25, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
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 * Comment I couldn't find any reliable trace of a Gülbahar Sultan daughter of Murad IV. She's not listed among Murad's named offspring in the decently sourced Turkish WP article. Curiously however Arabic WP has an unsourced article about Gülbahar Sultan (1634-1645) daughter of Murad IV. According to the Russian article Gabriel reports that all but four of Ayşe Sultan's daughters died young. My guess is that the poison claim is a hoax, but that Gülbahar existed and then died when she was eleven years old, as per the Arabic page. Still, no WP:RS.  84.73.134.206 (talk) 12:50, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete the subject obviously isn't notable. Power~enwiki (talk) 23:24, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete for failing to make a claim of notability. Being a daughter of Murad IV is not a claim of notability, as notabiliry is not inherited. The lack of sources also suggests that no claim of notability exists. --Bejnar (talk) 22:36, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete - I, as well, couldn't find any sources that would show the subject suitable for inclusion in wikipedia. Smmurphy(Talk) 11:50, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete NN, even if not fictional/hoax. Peterkingiron (talk) 19:25, 17 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment I wouldn't say the subject about a princess is unnotable, that is, if she really existed. However, in 17th century conservative Ottoman society, harem information wasn't always available. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 07:41, 18 May 2017 (UTC)


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