Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/G-Series (record label)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 11:27, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

G-Series (record label)

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Delete Wikipedia is not a platform for promotion. I am unable to locate any references that meet the criteria for establishing notability. Lots of references that are PR or based on announcements but nothing else. Topic fails WP:NCORP and GNG.  HighKing++ 13:59, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 14:00, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bangladesh-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 14:00, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 18:44, 6 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete - Brief mentions don't add up to WP:ORGCRIT.--CNMall41 (talk) 19:03, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep- It seems the nominator has taken it upon themselves to systematically delete every single article on Bangladeshi record companies. Of course if the subject fails notability guidelines they should be deleted. I just find it hard to believe that there is not a single notable record company in a country of 160 million people. Please search and review sources using জি-সিরিজ, the Bengali transliteration, if you are unfamiliar with the language then there is always Google translate. I am going to cite three news reports (written in Bengali, the national language of Bangladesh and in reliable sources), 1st, G-series was the first company in Bangladesh fined for copyright violation, copyright laws are generally poorly enforced and as such this case was a milestone. The 2nd sources is a profile on the company on their 35 founding anniversary. The 3rd, a news article about a music video of the company that generated complaints and including an official one to the police. I will also add a brief mention in a book published in 2007 in Kolkata, India. There is a significant number of results when searching google news using the Bengali transliteration. Those results in combination with the English sources available, including those used in the article, show that subject has been operation for number of decades and has continuously received coverage in reliable sources. A record company who have released a significant number notable albums and/or albums by notable artists every year and is a major record producer in Bangladesh, which is not my assertion but has been noted by and stated in a number of sources. Many of the newspaper in Bangladesh do not have online listing or archives that can be accessed online. There is also a limited number of Bengali language and Bangladeshi books on google books. The sources available do show that the subject passes WP:GNG. I do not find this article to be promotional, which the nominator stated, but it definitely could use more sources and expansion but that is not the job of AFD.Vinegarymass911 (talk) 10:36, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Response I looked at the references and thank you for providing them. The 1st reference fails WP:RS as it has no accredited journalist as the author. Leaving that aside, the reference fails WP:CORPDEPTH as it says almost nothing about the company itself. If the case was a milestone though, perhaps there are other articles that provide a more in-depth profile of the company? The 2nd reference also fails WP:RS for having no accredited journalist as the author. Leaving that aside, it also appears that this website requests users to write articles and provides a gmail address. This also raises alarm bells and I would argue for this reason, this article fails WP:RS. The 3rd reference also has no accredited journalist as the author of the article and fails WP:RS. The reference also fails WP:CORPDEPTH as it contains no details about the company. The book reference contains a single reference and also fails WP:CORPDEPTH as it contains no in-depth details about the company. While I have no doubt this label exists, in order to meet the criteria for establishing notability, at least two references must exist that provide Independent Content (as defined in WP:ORGIND) and in-depth information.  HighKing++ 18:52, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I dont see how jagonews24.com fails RS, where does it ask for writings (I see it now), and in any case this was written by the Entertainment reporter. Plenty of newspapers encourage letters. And as for the identity of the author that matters only for opinion pieces. Bangladeshi newspapers, like Kaler Kantho, do not usually list the identity of staff writers and would often write Chittagong District Correspondent or sports correspondent. Cultural context is important. if we exclude Jagonews, there are at least two significant RS. The book as I have is a brief mention, but it adds to the evidence that the company is notable, given that the book was published in a foreign country and had found the company notable enough to take note.Vinegarymass911 (talk) 03:16, 9 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Strongly Keep- Wikipedia is not a Competition for delete article ! Not quite right, I suppose. I haven't any idea why continuously nomination all of bangladeshi record level artical. recently i saw some of bangladeshi record level article deletion process I'm also voted previous deletion. There are several references in the corresponding Bangla article at bn:জি-সিরিজ and a Google News search for the Bangla name "জি-সিরিজ" generates several more possible references. I'm strongly recommend for check those reference. There are 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 all of source prove that this article passes on WP:GNG. This is one of the major record level in Bangladesh. 35 year's a Bangladeshi famous record level company is not reputable  indicating for general notable in wikipedia. I don't think. This article should not be deleted.-- Nahal (T) 07:57, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Response There may very well be an article on the banga wikipedia, but other language wikipedia versions do not necessarily share the english language guidelines. There is no doubt that the company exists - the question is whether it is notable. I've looked at the 10 references but in my opinion, none of those references meet the criteria for establishing notability as follows:
 * This Daily Star reference fails as a RS as it has no attributed journalist. Leaving that aside, it is neither significant coverage nor in-depth.
 * This Online Dhaka reference is a business listing in a compilation and as such is defined as trivial coverage, fails WP:CORPDEPTH.
 * Same as 2nd source mentioned by Vinegarymass911, fails for the reasons provided above.
 * The dailyjanakantha.com reference fails WP:RS as it has no attributed journalist but leaving that aside, the article is effectively a listing of more than one hundred songs available on the YouTube channel for the company in time for Eid. Fails WP:CORPDEPTH.
 * Thie prothomalo.com reference is based on an announcement of a new album with a mention-in-passing for the company but says nothing substantial about the company, fails WP:CORPDEPTH.
 * This Daily Star reference has no attributed journalist but leaving that aside, is based on an announcement (fails WP:ORGIND and is a mere mention-in-passing on the release of a CD, fails WP:CORPDEPTH.
 * This sarabangla.net reference has no attributed journalist but leaving that aside, is based on the public launch of more than 200 songs for Eid and contains no in-depth information on the company, fails WP:ORGIND and WP:CORPDEPTH
 * This bdnews24 reference has a mention-in-passing of the company with no in-depth detail, fails WP:CORPDEPTH
 * This channelionline.com reference has a mention-in-passing of the company with no in-depth details, fails WP:CORPDEPTH
 * This Daily Inqulab reference is a copy of the 2nd source mentioned by Vinegarymass911, fails for the reasons provided above.
 * A number of the references above were in relation to album or song releases by known artists on the Gseries label - note that notability is not inherited. In my opinion, there is a stronger case for a wikipedia page for the founder, Nazmul Haque Bhuiyan Khaled, than for this company.  HighKing++ 16:14, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I disagree with your argument. there is no reliable source or fail WP:RS of information here, These are nothing but irrational. One of the country's most popular newspapers will certainly publish the news by a journalist reporting the news. Everyone is convinced that anyone has the nomination rights but it isn't good to be competitive, Thanks-- Nahal (T) 08:57, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Vanamonde (Talk) 21:06, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete All I see is promotion without any asserted evidence of notability. Trillfendi (talk) 21:47, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Response. Since it is a Bangladeshi article, it is basically found in Bengali Wikipedia. Please search on google bn:জি-সিরিজ and review sources via transliteration. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 those source can be passed to WP:NCOMPANY, Thanks.-- Nahal</b> (T) 09:30, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete, as self-promotional and fails WP:GNG.4meter4 (talk) 22:47, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment and keep the article as it currently stands clearly has problems with WP:PROMO, however, current content is not a reflection of a subject's notability, as per WP:CONTN. Comments above about The Daily Star are incorrect - it is a newspaper of record. A quick English language search shows G-Series was the first label to release a hip hop recording in Bangladesh as well as G-Series referred to as a major label and as a leading label. All these articles have authors cited (although a lack of a cited author is not enough to discount a reference in a newspaper of record).  This table might possibly provide some context to the current discussion: WikiProject_YouTube/Notability in the context of G-Series' 3.3 million Youtube subscriber count (there seems to be a consensus that subscriber count does have a bearing on notability).--Goldsztajn (talk) 10:20, 23 September 2019 (UTC)


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