Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/G. E. C. Wakefield


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy keep. Everyone is now for keeping, including nom (SK#1) (non-admin closure) Galobtter (pingó mió) 16:15, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

G. E. C. Wakefield

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Unsourced except for existence of his memoirs; created by an editor later blocked for disruptive editing; factual accuracy very questionable - see talk page. Eg he was not MP for West Derbyshire, another Wakefield was their MP 1950-1962. This article is too unreliable to be an asset to the encyclopedia. No prejudice against it being re-created if any reliable sources can be found and used. Pam D  20:16, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment after great improvements to the article I now !vote "Keep" - see below. Pam  D  15:20, 9 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete it's such a mess and nothing is reliable or sourced. Just WP:TNT it I think. Dom from Paris (talk) 21:14, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep After the clean-up no problems with notability no need for TNT now. Good job didn't have the courage myself. Dom from Paris (talk) 15:54, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions.  MT Train Talk 00:20, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions.  MT Train Talk 00:20, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions.  MT Train Talk 00:20, 9 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Comment - I've removed the material about the MP for West Derbyshire, Sir Edward Wakefield, 1st Baronet, who was also in the India service. I'll look more closely later today or tomorrow. Smmurphy(Talk) 03:35, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment. I, too, have been looking at Sir Edward Wakefield, 1st Baronet, which is also horribly unsourced. There's an impossible deal of overlap in their the biographies. Both of these individuals may be notable - G.E.C Wakefield's book is real enough - but there's some absolute nonsense in these articles. Fiachra10003 (talk) 03:55, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep - there are enough sources to establish that GECW was Chief Minister of J&K = notable. It's clear that the original editor also threw in stuff on other Wakefields, but what's now left seems solid. GECW occurs on various genealogical sites with dates 1873 - 1944 (b&d in India, not London) but I've not added this as I'm not sure to what extent Wikipedia accepts these as sources. In any event I've removed the dates 1883-1950 as unsubstantiated, apparently invented to allow for events imported from careers of other Wakefields.Eustachiusz (talk) 11:27, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep as proposer - I can't formally withdraw it as there was originally support for deletion. The article is now much improved and encyclopedia-worthy after the splendid work of and  - thanks. Perhaps I gave up on it too soon, but it just seemed an irretrievable mixture of fact and fiction/confusion.  Pam  D  15:20, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep - per above. Great work!, I believe if you strike your !vote, this can be withdrawn - although feel under no obligation to do so. Smmurphy(Talk) 15:27, 9 March 2018 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.