Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/G. Patrick Maxwell


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The result of the debate was keep. Johnleemk | Talk 15:46, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

G. Patrick Maxwell
Handsome, no doubt a good surgeon, and clearly merits footnotes on some pages, but is he encyclopaedic?
 * Delete NN. Also, despite attempts to tone it down, still reads like an ad for a boob-job, face lift, lipo and botox clinic. Fan1967 21:39, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment If the claims in the article can be verified then Mr Maxwell may well be encyclopædic. Someone who has refined surgical procedures and started continuing plastic surgery programmes & enjoyed a Fellowship at Johns Hopkins shouldn't be brushed aside without at least a chance to determine their notability status.   (aeropagitica)   21:45, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete If he is that important in the plastic surgery community, someone will come and write a non-advertisement-looking entry. Too many unsupported claims. Evillan 21:46, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
 * keep: AfD seems woefully premature, as the article's creator has not had a reasonable chance to provide verification of notability claims.  As the article stands, however, the claims seem somewhat marginal.  Ombudsman 21:59, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep, apparently viewed as notable by those who cover his field . Monicasdude 22:10, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment are there many fellows at Johns Hopkins? http://search.jhmi.edu/query.html?qt=fellowships&imageField.x=0&imageField.y=0&imageField=Search Looks like quite a lot.  In the UK Fellowship seems to be registrar level, and everyone is expected to publish something.  Midgley 23:42, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment reply Yes there are lots of Fellows at Johns Hopkins at any one time. Dr. Maxwell was there almost 30 years ago. It's his contributions in that interval which have been pretty extraordinary Droliver 03:50, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
 * (I've indented that) FOr a general encyclopaedia it probably needs to be brought out rather more what they are. Free flaps are very clever, but would a reader be given an understanding of what they are, and what the improvement by the subject was that is notable?  We are clearly going to keep this one, but WP:IS NOT a directory of surgeons, and WP:BIO should not be a hagiography, and should provide context. Midgley 11:59, 22 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Keep per MD; notable achievements Bobby P. Smith Sr. Jr. 00:29, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep As someone who actually practices in the field of Plastic Surgery (and was one of Dr. Maxwell's former fellows) I can tell you that he is arguably THE premier breast surgeon in the world & one of the world's authorities on cosmetic and breast surgery. He travels all over the world as the featured invited lecturer on symposiums on breast cancer and plastic surgery. In an era where Dr. 90210 is Plastic Surgery to TV viewers, Dr. Maxwell is kind of an "inside baseball" celebrity (ironically Dr. Rey from Dr. 90210 sent 2-3 patients a week when I was there that he was afraid to operate on to Nashville from California). If someone of his stature in the field doesn't meet standards for inclusion here, then I don't think anyone would. Droliver 02:05, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep, he certainly seems to have enough publications. Catamorphism 03:38, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
 * comment There are actually a large number of publications that he has that I know don't show up on Pubmed including a large number of papers, textbook chapters, instructional inserts/videos Droliver 03:50, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
 * comment textbook chapters are notable, I'd say. A reference in publications with title and ISBN would be appropriate. Midgley 11:59, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
 * comment reply I added some more references I found google-ing. I'll try to figure out the ISBN tags. I edited some of the text to tone down what someone felt was too promotional (which is ironic as he doesn't advertise his practice at all)


 * Weak delete. While he has an opinion expressed in public and a number of journal articles, there is little to suggest he is more notable than the 1000s of other US plastic surgeons. JFW | T@lk  22:09, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
 * In other words, we need proof that he is more notable, e.g. description as "THE premier breast surgeon in the world" by an authoratitive source. JFW | T@lk  22:12, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
 * If dozens of peer reviewed papers, book chapters, visiting professorships, and the like aren't enough to convince our community her, I don't know what it would take? If you know a Plastic Surgeon, ask him who Pat Maxwell is & I guarentee 100% of them will tell you exactly who he is and his level of respect in the field around the world. He is a really heavy-hitter in the field and recognized as such Droliver 01:23, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep: Monicasdude pointed out press coverage, the guy's got a 20-year publication record, and not just any doctor gets to be a professor of medicine: unlike most other fields, profs of medicine are not junior academics. And he's a prof at Vanderbilt, a reputable university.  More importantly, plenty of decent, verifiable information.  Mangojuice 20:35, 23 March 2006 (UTC)


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