Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/GCU Roughriders


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. NativeForeigner Talk/Contribs 05:18, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

GCU Roughriders

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Non notable British University Sports team. British University sports teams aren't usually notable on their own campus, never mind in the outside world. This team does not appear to be one of the very small number of exceptions. A search on google returns only sites directly related to the team and its rivals. Article is unreferenced and given the lack of independent and/or reliable sources on the subject, there is little prospect of being able to reference or expand the article. Pit-yacker (talk) 14:16, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions.  —Pit-yacker (talk) 14:20, 26 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete as per nom. Only a few British university sports teams meet WP:GNG, and this does not appear not one of them. Pfainuk talk 14:28, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Tjc 6   14:57, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete no references given, policy is clear.--Paul McDonald (talk) 14:36, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete - No references given and a Google search reveals nothing that is independent of them or rivals means that, like most of them, this is a non-notable British Uni sports team. DitzyNizzy (aka Jess) &#124; (talk to me) &#124; (What I've done)  14:39, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete- does not meet the notability guidelines, as there are no references given and there seems to be no coverage in any sources independent to the team.
 * A quick google search shows only team websites and other social groups operated by the team. It appears that the only coverage outside of the team itself is the team's page on the league website, which is not necessarily qualified as an independent source (it is part of the league).
 * A search in Google News and another one in Yahoo! News yield no results, showing that there is no coverage in any significant independent news sources.
 * Keep - That "quick Google search" above yields 10,900 hits: that would be a truly unusual amount of "team websites and social groups operated by the team". See the extended discussion at Articles for deletion/Derby Braves. SteveStrummer (talk) 02:43, 30 June 2010 (UTC)


 * That is, presumably, a search for GCU Roughriders without quotes. That's the only way I can get 10,900 results.  Obviously, that includes Wikipedia and its mirrors.


 * But Glasgow Caledonian University are not the only "GCU" in the world, and this team are not the only "Roughriders". Given that that search finds Women's Volleyball matches in Arizona, for example, I believe it's fair to suggest that that number is inflated.


 * But whether it's a reasonable number or not, a raw count of Google hits is insufficient. It does not demonstrate the existence of significant coverage in reliable sources independent of the subject.  This is what you need to demonstrate if you want to demonstrate notability. Pfainuk talk 17:34, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.